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			08-14-2004, 10:32 AM
			
			
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today.  2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone...........  "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S"      Your Best Bet For  BIG BASS.....
 
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			08-14-2004, 10:52 AM
			
			
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		Good info guys. Thanks for sharing   
Oh, and I have found that lead does not need to be sealed   
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			08-14-2004, 10:58 AM
			
			
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			08-14-2004, 11:23 AM
			
			
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			08-14-2004, 11:29 AM
			
			
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		 tid bit more....urethane is a blend of different tung oils with a splash of hardner mixed in. 
 
just make sure it's exterior/marine urethane. 
 
don't use poly it's not the same. 
 
soak for a half hour,,,,let drip for a few min's, then wipe the outside off an hang over nite. 
 
lightly sand to get rid of any fuzzies,,blow the dust off, or wipe your plug down with wil-bond[has bonding agents to let the paint stick better] then prime with exterior OIL paint. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2004, 12:31 PM
			
			
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		For those using Tung Oil,do you dilute,dip or brush on and how long do you dry? Thanks   
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2004, 12:36 PM
			
			
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		 Dip and dry overnight. 
 
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			08-17-2004, 12:39 PM
			
			
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		 Bernzy thanks.How long do you keep them emersed? 
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2004, 05:18 PM
			
			
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		salty, 
you sure that your are letting that waterlox dry in heat WITH good air flow ?
 
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			08-17-2004, 07:03 PM
			
			
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Some seem to change their finishes and their waterproofing ways like I change underwear........        And some seem to be on the Quest in Search of the HOLY GRAIL of Finishes.....Which I'm not even sure is there.   You are dealing with a piece of wood that is submerged in water.  Some things work better than others, some finishes last longer than others.   BUT no one is going to make a piece of wood that lasts for ETERNITY.  First of all, all wood should be sealed, no matter what you're using.  This will prolong the life of your plug by sealing properly with whatever you're using; OILS or etc. It's up to you.... It's all in the APPLICATION AND CHEMICAL WARFARE, WITH PROPER PAINTS AND PRIMERS. AND PROPER DRYING TIMES. I've been at this a long time.  Take it for what it's worth: OILS DO PRESERVE your wood.  It seems to me that alot of you guys when using cedars, when going over it with water based paints,  the oils bleeds out.  This is your problem.  DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND EXPERIMENT.  Water based in water is a no no. It does not LAST.  Oil based in water, REPELS.  Let's talk about tung oil.  PURE TUNG OIL is a finishing product that provides a tough, flexible coating.  Tung Oil had been know for centuries to the Chinese since the 13th century. Tung Oil received wide application in China in the building trades, as a treatment for both wood and stone structures; and in marine trades AS A PRESERVATIVE and WATER REPELLANT on wooden boats. Tung oil is favored over linseed oil because it is faster drying.  PURE TUNG OIL is WATER and ALKALI RESISTANT.  It resists marring and penatrates well.  This is just one of many things I've found out through trial and error.  Good luck.  Don't be afraid to experiment.   THIS CONCLUDES OUR LESSON FOR TODAY.      
			
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			08-18-2004, 08:00 AM
			
			
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		 I've had problems with the waterlox, but good results with the boiled linseed oil. With the waterlox, the paint / primer did not adhere to the waterlox. After a few nights of fishing, the paint peeled off. The linseed oil sealed plugs have not had any problems. Even after the hook drags and bluefish have chewed the finish off on spots of the plug, I haven't seen any grain raising 
or other problems associated with water absorption.  
The first few I did with the boiled linseed, I used it straight, no mineral spirits. The linseed bled through the paint after a week of drying on some of them. It hasn't had any adverse effect on the plug other than it looks awful. I haven't had a problem with bleeding through since I've cut the linseed with mineral spirits. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2004, 11:15 AM
			
			
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		AdamR, Your doing  your  HOMEWORK...............        
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2004, 06:32 PM
			
			
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		 I take the raw plug prime wait bout 47 seconds then paint wait one day then epoxy finish one more day an its catchin fish.i got no time to wait.an I don't care if it explodes i just make another one .thank U. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I bumped this up because there is a bunch of good info here. 
 
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 Thanks Bernzy - I used Waterlox for my first plugs - will get to my friend Baystalker's to paint in two weeks.  
		
		
		
		
		
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