Menhaden Bill introduced

[DZ]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I am surprised dennis, do you really know how efficient and how many pounds that "one" company takes? Of course they give bait to fisherman, they want them to stay happy and quiet, its a small price for them to pay...I watched them up close many times this year from my boat and they take bunker in devestating numbers...I am all for more Bunker!

Bill,
Please don't get me wrong Bill. I know where you're coming from on this.
More large bunker will mean more dead cows - plain and simple.
It's always been my priority to protect large bass. To put a hurting on a commercial guy by hiding behind an environmental smoke screen so that sport fishermen can have all the pogies is wrong. If RISAA really wanted to protect the pogies so they can protect the bay then they should try and ban the taking of pogies by anyone.
Just my opinion.
DZ

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by DZ

Bill,
Please don't get me wrong Bill. I know where you're coming from on this.
More large bunker will mean more dead cows - plain and simple.
It's always been my priority to protect large bass. To put a hurting on a commercial guy by hiding behind an environmental smoke screen so that sport fishermen can have all the pogies is wrong. If RISAA really wanted to protect the pogies so they can protect the bay then they should try and ban the taking of pogies by anyone.
Just my opinion.
DZ

EXACTLY!

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by DZ

Bill,
Please don't get me wrong Bill. I know where you're coming from on this.
More large bunker will mean more dead cows - plain and simple.
It's always been my priority to protect large bass. To put a hurting on a commercial guy by hiding behind an environmental smoke screen so that sport fishermen can have all the pogies is wrong. If RISAA really wanted to protect the pogies so they can protect the bay then they should try and ban the taking of pogies by anyone.
Just my opinion.
DZ

That makes complete sense.

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by DZ

Bill,
Please don't get me wrong Bill. I know where you're coming from on this.
More large bunker will mean more dead cows - plain and simple.
It's always been my priority to protect large bass. To put a hurting on a commercial guy by hiding behind an environmental smoke screen so that sport fishermen can have all the pogies is wrong. If RISAA really wanted to protect the pogies so they can protect the bay then they should try and ban the taking of pogies by anyone.
Just my opinion.
DZ

Works both ways. More bunker means more big fish.
Your also talking about 1 commercial venture reaping the reward$ at the expense of the entire fishing community. Comm. fishers and recs alike. Also, keep in mind alot of other species benefit from bunker other than SB

[JohnR]

Hi Ed

I think the shore anglers will benefit from this greatly as well. I think the Bay will benefit greatly - forget about the bass.

Will shore and boat recs snagging pogies amount to one day's haul from Ark? Probably not. It probably would equal how much Ark gives away in "PR" only...

Personally I think it's a good thing for just about everyone...

[riverrat2]

I don't think local tackle shops will suffer greatly due to the fact that the amount of profit on fresh bait is usually very small. I work at a tackle shop and although it is not in RI we do keep fresh pogies in the shop whenever possible. We would be making maybe around $.50 on each fresh pogie sold. I say maybe because the price of fresh bait is more than just how much you pay for each pogie but also the amount of hours that are spent finding them and picking them up. In the end the tackle shop is not making a killing on fresh pogies at all but rather supplies them simply to satisfy the customer. Also here in Mass we don't have any large commercial pogie fishery that I know of, and most tackle shops that get fresh pogies are getting them from a few local guys that get them with throw nets. Protecting the pogies will bring nothing but good things. I think the fact that people are complaing about more big fish being killed or less big fish in there local spots is absolutely ridiculous. If more Big Fish are being killed doesnt that equate to more big fish period?

[ThomCat]

"If RISAA really wanted to protect the pogies so they can protect the bay then they should try and ban the taking of pogies by anyone.
Just my opinion."
DZ

Sometimes these things get way out of control. It took years for Steve M. and the RISAA crew to get anyone to even address this situation at all. To read a quote like the one above illustrates how many people are not familiar with how the "system" works. When I was on the RISAA board of directors a few years back I too was rather hotheaded and wanted to take "big bites" like taking on the whole comm. pogy fishing industry.
To try something like this is an excersise in futility. To try to address it in small doses like the Bay for starts is the much more prudent and effective way to go. Naby steps, man, baby step....TC

[fishaholic18]

Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading. Bill is right, Nuts! Infact, I'm going nuts reading this. How can anyone say protecting the Pogies is a bad thing?

OK, too many pogies=too many BIG bass for anglers to kill=No good?!!??

OK, so does this make sense- Less Pogies=Less BIG bass for anglers to kill=Good??!!??

Surfcasting will be horrible if there are too many Pogies??
Are you kidding me?

None of it makes sense to me.

Talk about being hypocritical...These are the same guys who have been complaining right along-on this very site-about the lack of Pogies/Bait.

Kind of a Catch22 if ya ask me. I say save the resource is the way to go.