help stop the destruction at matunuck!

[zimmy]

I don't know the specifics of the coastal dynamics at matunuck, but in general, beach replacement is futile, rediculously expensive and... stupid. In this case, who knows what it will do.

Before the stuff can be dumped there will have to be a completed env impact statement. It would look at the quality of the dredged material and the impact on the ecosystem where it gets dumped and stuff . If people disagree with the eis they can take legal action

[RIJIMMY]

just some clarification to some. We're not talking about saving some million dollar homes in matunuck. Its a community of small cottages, trailers, small businesses, town beaches and some classic surfcasting spots with good public access. Its really a spot that time has forgotten and has a lot of value that can never be quantified.
Its sounds like this is a project that has not developed as expected, there may be hope that contractors clean up the mess, sifting through the sand. I do agree that this is a short term solution. Not sure what can be done, but ti would eb a major loss to have this area erode away or become a junk pile

[RIROCKHOUND]

Zimmy,
Do you actually think a state & town sponsored Army corps project like this did not go through an EIS? Give me a break. This wasn't some backdoor deal. It was viewed as beneficial use of dredged material (that was getting dredged anyways)
http://www.nae.usace.army.mil/naviga...s/PtJudith.pdf

It IS a short-term solution, and according to the paper something will have to change in the future if the town/state decide they need to save matunuck beach Road.

[MakoMike]

There has already been talk among town Officals and the owners of the property around the Mist and Joyce's about building a sea wall to stop the erosion.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

As I see it, there are lot more people who enjoy the beach than those that enjoy the jetties, plus the jetties are still there. So if its a motter of who gets to enjoy what, I'd say that the money was well spent, since a lot more people enjoy the beach. Either way we are talking about man-made structure, not natural structure.

Sure sounds good in theory..Thats why it was such a easy sell.
it should go down as one of the ACOE biggest blunders of all time..
Well the private beach owners thank u for replenishing their beaches..
What difference does it make what kind of structure it is...When black fish that use the structures to harbor their young can't do that anymore because there are no more crabs there..
An the herring that used to come into the ponds can't make it in because the flooms are choked up with sand..Or the inlets become downright dangerous because the they are shoalled in..
They great rip at sandy hook was not a man made structure..
Never Mind the promised access that is a joke.A narrow walkway with no parking..Miles of beach to use for the rich an famous..
U claim the jettys are still there.
What do u know about jetty's???
U seem to be hung up on arguing with me..
Alright I give..

[animal]

This one's easy.The channel needs dredging,the closest beaches to the channel needed replenishment.A lot more will be needed,but it's a start.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by animal

This one's easy.The channel needs dredging,the closest beaches to the channel needed replenishment.A lot more will be needed,but it's a start.

You got that right!

[Bill L]

A lot of people wanted the dredge spoils, unfortunately it will be a drop in the bucket. It wont be long before a seawall will be needed to protect structures and the road

[Bill L]

This trash can be dealt with. The contractor supposedly has crews out there this week.

Narragansett Surfcasters initiated a clean-up at Deep Hole on Sunday. Well, me and my daughter to start, anyways. The effort was contagious, gave away a couple of bags to someone else, and had a family of four pitching in at one point. We managed to clear about 400 feet of shoreline in front of the lot. There was an article in the Projo today that commented on how there were less cans here (because we cleaned it!), and it even noted a couple of our bags we dragged up to the lot.

We will be back out there Saturday morning at 0900, weather permitting, and will work west. Anybody that wants to pitch in is welcome to help. I should have some bags, or bring some too. Sunday morning is likely as well. We can bitch about it, or do something.

[zimmy]

RIRock- GIve you a break ? Read more carefully.


I didn't imply anywhere that this was getting done without an eis.

My point was that it wouldn't happen until one is done.
The results will show if there are contaminates and what the impact will be.

If one disagrees with the findings get money and fight the findings.

However, this sand will not fix whatever problems are occuring.

As an aside, Matunuck is my favorite place/community just about anywhere.

[MakoMike]

Just in case someone doesn't see it, there is a meeting at URI Bay Campus tonight. Details are in another thread.

[RIROCKHOUND]

OK Zimmy;
misread.
Sorry about call you out.

[zimmy]

RIRock: No problem, thats the way the intranet works.