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02-12-2007, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefLinesider
Just curious how you know it is mechanically superior to a VS having never fished it.
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Let me ask you, how well do you know your VS inside and out?
What do you know about the seals?
What do you know about the drag?
What do you know about the clutch bearings?
What do you know about the line lay of the spool?
What do you know about the crank?
I am not up to sitting here all night and type the differences. I offer you this. PM me and we'll talk on the phone within the next couple of days.
Then you will either learn the differences or teach me something.
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02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
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I need spring!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
Posts: 1,213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casting Z's
Let me ask you, how well do you know your VS inside and out?
What do you know about the seals?
What do you know about the drag?
What do you know about the clutch bearings?
What do you know about the line lay of the spool?
What do you know about the crank?
I am not up to sitting here all night and type the differences. I offer you this. PM me and we'll talk on the phone within the next couple of days.
Then you will either learn the differences or teach me something.
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Not to defend VS here, but since you have not fished it, you don't really have a leg to stand on. It might look and feel great, but then again, you haven't fished it. I'm pretty sure the Edsel looked good on paper too.
I'm sure after a season or two of hard use we'll know where this reel stands.
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02-12-2007, 10:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 108
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Originally Posted by CAL
Not to defend VS here, but since you have not fished it, you don't really have a leg to stand on. It might look and feel great, but then again, you haven't fished it. I'm pretty sure the Edsel looked good on paper too.
I'm sure after a season or two of hard use we'll know where this reel stands.
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Your probably right. Lets not acknowledge that the designer of VS has anything to do with this reels design and its just happens to sit exactly as a VS does on the rod. So now what does it come down to?
Many far better fishermen than you and me have been using this reel for a couple of years now without a problem.
What are you trying to say here? You need me to justify a purchase?
What's up with that Avatar?
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02-12-2007, 11:26 PM
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I need spring!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
Posts: 1,213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casting Z's
Your probably right. Lets not acknowledge that the designer of VS has anything to do with this reels design and its just happens to sit exactly as a VS does on the rod. So now what does it come down to?
Many far better fishermen than you and me have been using this reel for a couple of years now without a problem.
What are you trying to say here? You need me to justify a purchase?
What's up with that Avatar?
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I'm just saying that until you fish it, your statement of it being superior means squat.
And my avatar.....I'm a Red Sox fan and I hate the Yankees of course 
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02-13-2007, 12:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CAL
I'm just saying that until you fish it, your statement of it being superior means squat.
And my avatar.....I'm a Red Sox fan and I hate the Yankees of course 
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It's the little kid flipping someone off, that shouldn't be condoned. I remember seeing that image being passed around through the internet a couple of years ago.
Sorry, but I just feel that there's nothing cute about it and if it where my kid, he'd have a foot up his oss!
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02-12-2007, 11:33 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,413
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casting Z's
Your probably right. Lets not acknowledge that the designer of VS has anything to do with this reels design and its just happens to sit exactly as a VS does on the rod. So now what does it come down to?
Many far better fishermen than you and me have been using this reel for a couple of years now without a problem.
What are you trying to say here? You need me to justify a purchase?
What's up with that Avatar?
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Z;
Not knocking your purchase. You've done well stating your case. It sounds like you fish alot. Fish that real 4-5x a week, in the surf and see how it holds up. My VS went through that for 3.5 seasons before it had a minor problem. The ZB probably will, but who knows...
thats all..
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-13-2007, 12:55 AM
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Been many moons
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aquidneck Island
Posts: 400
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CASTING Z's
I say this repectfully cause I dont know you. But...
Im skeptical, Cause you come on here humping the Zee Baas. You've got the avatar & the name. And your really quick to talk about how fantastic it is. With nothing to back it up with. I think your way too aggressive trying to sell it to everyone. Let ZeeBaas do that. Or let the quality of the reel speak for itself. You sound like a salesman rather than fisherman. Like you've been chosen as a ZeeBaas spokesman.
I would be interested to hear what you had to say. Offering up your phone number is too much though. Give me a break. The "call me anytime to debate ZB & VS" is a little over the top. You should be getting paid for that.
Personally I wouldn't offer that up unless the company wanted to give me some incentive. If someone asked me my opinion, I would be more than happy to tell them. But I wouldn't advertise myself as a source for information. They have websites, addresses and factory numbers for that.
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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02-13-2007, 01:06 AM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,449
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Well, howdy doo...
I really don't care about this or that...whenver anybody steps to my boy Dave, I get knid of mad.
So does my brother.
Can anybody say "Bushwhackers?"
Ok and my dad, too, but he's not too tough.
Cordially Yours,
The Bombardier Family
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John Redmond Thinks He's Smart By Changing My Avatar
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02-13-2007, 01:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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The Z-Bass debate is like the VS debate on Steriods.
Someone spending that much on a reel will ultimately have to justify the cost.
Why?? It's their money.they can do with it what they want.
All that BS aside.I think the reel is too small.I Know someone who put it to the test an had the handle strip out on em, twice.
So they had to change the design.Other that that The Jury is still out.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-13-2007, 08:54 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NIB
I Know someone who put it to the test an had the handle strip out on em, twice. So they had to change the design.Other that that The Jury is still out.
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Keith's on his third handle for his Accurate Twin-Spin 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Recently relocated to the shores of Rhode Island - East Bay!
Posts: 505
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I think Van Staal secretly makes the Z under this pseudonym to cut down on the number of Van Staal Bashing threads 
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02-16-2007, 04:43 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 179
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don,t have one nor do i want to buy one,,, far too expensive for this fisherman
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take your kids fishing
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