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02-26-2007, 12:16 PM
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Knowing how long a fish like those might take to land from experience but also knowing individual fish fighting techniques vary greatly, pick a number. 3? 6? 12? 18? 
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Why even try.........
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02-26-2007, 12:22 PM
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9-12 bass would be a good number steve
you figure they're not blitzing, but on the feed
a bass in that class range with that gear would be landed pretty quickly, not an epic battle going on here, as 20 lb braid is stronger than you think
figure every 5 casts pick up a fish
just my thoughts here
Last edited by jim sylvester; 02-26-2007 at 12:52 PM..
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02-26-2007, 12:27 PM
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4-6... fish that size are coming into their fighting prime, big enough to turn broad side and keep you honest, still "small" enough to allow you to put the tongs to 'em,(IMHO, 38-44s are the hardest fighters),some will run a long way and sulk, then slowly give in, others will do battle right at your feet,running at you cartwheeling and then run out to sea, only to reverse direction and comit harry carry on the beach hard tellin' not knowing!.. then you have to take into account that you wont get one every cast....yup, 4-6, 4 being more realistic....
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02-26-2007, 12:52 PM
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Landing 8-10 may be reasonable, but if we have to take some time to revive them then, who knows. 2 hours goes by pretty quick when the bite is on. You say 20 lb braid, well it it is 20 lb fireline, then no problem for me, but if it's 20 lb whiplash or powerpro or some other junk, then it could take a bit longer to play the fish. I feel more comfortable with fireline since it breaks at a higher lb than they rate it.
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02-26-2007, 12:54 PM
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a dozen or so.... give or take if your real horny.....
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02-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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If you're letting them go - taking care to not rip their mouth apart and taking time to revive the ones that are beat up pretty bad maybe 15.
If you are a commercial, in your fish-catching prime and motivated by money, and knowing how much you can horse them, and not caring if you rip their face off when you disgorge the hook, and throwing them in a pile behind you rather than reviving them: 25...maybe more.
I've known commercials who can beach a 20 in under three minutes...
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02-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
If you're letting them go - taking care to not rip their mouth apart and taking time to revive the ones that are beat up pretty bad maybe 15.
If you are a commercial, in your fish-catching prime and motivated by money, and knowing how much you can horse them, and not caring if you rip their face off when you disgorge the hook, and throwing them in a pile behind you rather than reviving them: 25...maybe more.
I've known commercials who can beach a 20 in under three minutes...
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20's in under 3 minutes..the old crank and yank technique
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02-26-2007, 01:02 PM
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I do that in the canal
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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02-26-2007, 01:07 PM
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No money involved here Joe! Interesting responses! One of you so far is in my own estimate ( I added in some time for "sportsman release ie: sh!t!!!! I dropped the baztard).
Let's call them June fish, real slammers!
Keep the responses coming! THANKS!!!! 
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02-26-2007, 01:17 PM
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8-10
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boat fish dont count
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02-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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I think I'd be so happy to get one that I would celebrate for a while, not realizing the feed is "on", but then after the initial celebration I could probably land 5 more, now if we were talking about a jagged rocky coast, I'd say only 2 more, but a beach is a little more forgiving and 3 foot seas doesn't sound too bad, but I guess the new moon would get some good rips going...
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02-26-2007, 02:35 PM
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A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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02-26-2007, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed B
A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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Eddy baby!!!!  TC was speaking kindly of you the other day. I love the way you broke this down.
I can smell the smoke from all the thinking going on.
I will give my answer this evening and discuss it in more detail Wednesday night at Mass Striped Bass.
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02-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed B
A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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Those damn engineers. Always have a formula or equation. That's why I like fishing with Ed. He's got the angle figured out.
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