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02-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe
If you're letting them go - taking care to not rip their mouth apart and taking time to revive the ones that are beat up pretty bad maybe 15.
If you are a commercial, in your fish-catching prime and motivated by money, and knowing how much you can horse them, and not caring if you rip their face off when you disgorge the hook, and throwing them in a pile behind you rather than reviving them: 25...maybe more.
I've known commercials who can beach a 20 in under three minutes...
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20's in under 3 minutes..the old crank and yank technique
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02-26-2007, 01:02 PM
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Super Moderator
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I do that in the canal
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02-26-2007, 01:07 PM
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No money involved here Joe! Interesting responses! One of you so far is in my own estimate ( I added in some time for "sportsman release ie: sh!t!!!! I dropped the baztard).
Let's call them June fish, real slammers!
Keep the responses coming! THANKS!!!! 
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Why even try.........
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02-26-2007, 01:17 PM
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end of the fence guy
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8-10
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boat fish dont count
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02-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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I think I'd be so happy to get one that I would celebrate for a while, not realizing the feed is "on", but then after the initial celebration I could probably land 5 more, now if we were talking about a jagged rocky coast, I'd say only 2 more, but a beach is a little more forgiving and 3 foot seas doesn't sound too bad, but I guess the new moon would get some good rips going...
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02-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
I think I'd be so happy to get one that I would celebrate for a while, not realizing the feed is "on", but then after the initial celebration I could probably land 5 more, now if we were talking about a jagged rocky coast, I'd say only 2 more, but a beach is a little more forgiving and 3 foot seas doesn't sound too bad, but I guess the new moon would get some good rips going...
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Your on the right track with your thinking. Got to analyze all the factors that might affect your outcome, including personal experience levels! I like it! 
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Why even try.........
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02-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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u didnt even have the ### 8 up there flap 
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02-26-2007, 01:41 PM
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My estimate isn't 8 Matt!
(BTW, did you see sound stage last night on Channel 2? The New York Dolls were on live for an hour, it was great!)
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Why even try.........
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02-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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2 hour steady bite, (not blitz), on the drop, 20 pound fireline, 9 foot rod, 30# (20-30) class.. all c&r.. I'm with Rock... 4-6.. if you want a specific # and not a range.. I'll split the difference... 5.. tops.. I would think.
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02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
Your on the right track with your thinking. Got to analyze all the factors that might affect your outcome, including personal experience levels! I like it! 
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awee shucks, I feel like a student that just got an A!
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02-26-2007, 02:35 PM
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A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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02-26-2007, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed B
A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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Eddy baby!!!!  TC was speaking kindly of you the other day. I love the way you broke this down.
I can smell the smoke from all the thinking going on.
I will give my answer this evening and discuss it in more detail Wednesday night at Mass Striped Bass.
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Why even try.........
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02-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed B
A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.
Ed
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Those damn engineers. Always have a formula or equation. That's why I like fishing with Ed. He's got the angle figured out.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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02-26-2007, 05:15 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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After the fourth fish I'd probably move looking for bigger ones.....and come up empty.
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02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
After the fourth fish I'd probably move looking for bigger ones.....and come up empty.
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 Sad, but I have been guilty of sins like this.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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02-26-2007, 06:13 PM
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Canceled
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
Those damn engineers. Always have a formula or equation. That's why I like fishing with Ed. He's got the angle figured out.
DZ
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That's the difference between guessing, scientific wild ass guessing and estimating. I'd have just said 6.
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02-26-2007, 07:38 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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about 12 with a smile.
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