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03-01-2007, 03:33 PM
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The test sounds interesting, but it seems to me lacking in controls.
PP and Sufix #50 should be about the same diameter as 12# mono
How many pounds pull tention were put on the line. what if you want to put the brakes on a fish so it can't reach the rocks? What happens to the mono if you put a 20# drag on it.
There are a lot of variables and I believe braid comes out ahead in most of them.
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03-01-2007, 03:34 PM
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I LOVE Braid. It IS inferior in rocks. Pick your poison...
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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03-01-2007, 03:38 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Philadelphia
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What JF said. I bought a VS 250 this winter just for it's mono capacity to weight ratio.
3 versus 17 is still significant, much more so than 17/30
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03-01-2007, 03:45 PM
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Night Stalker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
I LOVE Braid. It IS inferior in rocks. Pick your poison...
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word up son. 
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03-01-2007, 04:29 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
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I tried braid and broke off a few in the rocks and gave it the boot, never had any issues with mono.
" pick your poison" is a good point, both have their drawbacks.
What about lines like yozuri hybrid?
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03-01-2007, 05:17 PM
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Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
I LOVE Braid. It IS inferior in rocks. Pick your poison...
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I bet you havent tried cortland master braid. I use 60b test and have had bass try to do nasty things to me with no avail.
to each his own i guess.
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03-01-2007, 08:17 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I bet you havent tried cortland master braid.
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That stuff'll saw thru rocks
The problem is, it'll turn your thumb to hamburger if you try it on a non-levelwind conventional.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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03-02-2007, 04:28 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I bet you havent tried cortland master braid. I use 60b test and have had bass try to do nasty things to me with no avail.
to each his own i guess.
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I put that stuff on 2 Shimano 400s last year. Best braided line I ever used. I still hold with Ande Back Country for my spinning reels though.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-02-2007, 06:02 AM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
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I use 60b test and have had bass try to do nasty things to me with no avail.
Ditto 
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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03-02-2007, 06:03 AM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I bet you havent tried cortland master braid. I use 60b test and have had bass try to do nasty things to me with no avail.
to each his own i guess.
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 ditto
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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03-02-2007, 06:06 AM
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Oh Yea...
Bring out the Gimp!
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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03-02-2007, 06:46 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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So who wants to do the test  ? Tomorrow's TFCTFN entertainment, braid mono toe clipper abrasion test...
Seriously - this does look worthy of a repeat and as said - some controls would be nice. How would one measure than apply consistant pressure time in and again?
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03-05-2007, 05:41 PM
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Captain Pete
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CT
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use bank sinkers. thats what the guys from suffix used in their demo, the line was up against a piece of sheet metal. on hte other end someone or something pulls the line.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
So who wants to do the test  ? Tomorrow's TFCTFN entertainment, braid mono toe clipper abrasion test...
Seriously - this does look worthy of a repeat and as said - some controls would be nice. How would one measure than apply consistant pressure time in and again?
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03-02-2007, 07:30 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I bet you havent tried cortland master braid. I use 60b test and have had bass try to do nasty things to me with no avail.
to each his own i guess.
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I looked at it... Not too good for spinners or so all the reports have said.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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03-02-2007, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
I looked at it... Not too good for spinners or so all the reports have said.
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you may be able to get away with 40 lb with a spinner...
ive never tried it.
Fireline is my favorite for spinners
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03-02-2007, 10:53 AM
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Location: Bethany CT
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What is this cortland master braid? Is it similar to spectron? I just got myself a spool of spectron for my 7000cl that I use in the canal. I have a long running battle with an abutment that kicks my axx. I think it was saltheart that said the spectron is rather abrasion resistant for braid. I don't think I can go back to mono for that kind of jigging, but I don't know what I'll do if it keeps happening to me  .
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-02-2007, 11:23 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
What is this cortland master braid? Is it similar to spectron? I just got myself a spool of spectron for my 7000cl that I use in the canal. I have a long running battle with an abutment that kicks my axx. I think it was saltheart that said the spectron is rather abrasion resistant for braid. I don't think I can go back to mono for that kind of jigging, but I don't know what I'll do if it keeps happening to me  .
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Master Braid is basically the same as Spectron--maybe a tad rounder. Same diameter, same rough finish. It comes in both ice blue and yellow instead of green and "salt & pepper" like Spectron.
John--I'm thinking to control tension, you could hang what's left on a filler spool off a fly tying bobbin, hold the other end and work it over a blade. Lots of people probably have a few yards left over on a 300 yard spool after filling a reel.
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03-01-2007, 05:09 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Dave
PP and Sufix #50 should be about the same diameter as 12# mono
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They're not. More like 15-17# mono. The published "mono equivalency" of most braids is right up there with the typical bait and switch car dealer's ad in pure BS.
The proof is in how many yards you can get on a reel that has a known capacity for mono. Except for the original Whiplash by Berkley, I've never found any brand of braid that's as thin as advertised
Good example. An Abu 7000 has a known capacity of around 300 yards of 20# mono. 65# Sufix and PP both claim to have 16# mono equivalency. Try getting a full 300 yard spool of either on an Abu 7000 
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