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03-06-2007, 02:38 PM
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Location: Lombardia
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Lots of talk in the development world about the need to develop "knowledge networks" and "networks of expertise." But, here is the key "but" none of these people have any ideas what a real knowledge network is.
However, what you are doing here is running a knowledge network where, in the parlance of the development world, "experts and novices alike voluntarily communicate and share knowledge and best practices with each-other." So you have a specific field of expertise which is valuable. I can't tell you how much money is thrown at development projects that propose to create "knowledge networks" and then they waste hundreds of thousands of dollars and at the end of 4 years they have a website where maybe less than 10 people have posted some random comments relevant to nothing.
Not kidding. So to these people, you are a very marketable commodity. I think something like "Knowledge Network Development and Management Consultant" is around the right title that could put you down in the southern hemisphere for the winter consulting in South America, and back up in the NE for the summer.
PM me, I have ideas.
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03-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Thats to bad John, but everything happens for a reason. You're a smart guy and know your stuff in and out, get the resume on Monster and Dice then pick and choose (accept no less than 4weeks vacation.)
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03-06-2007, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricM
Lots of talk in the development world about the need to develop "knowledge networks" and "networks of expertise." But, here is the key "but" none of these people have any ideas what a real knowledge network is.
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That's why they hire me
Oh, and you're a few years behind the times...they're called "innovation networks" today, and Global ones at that
Bummer on the news, but it just may bring something a whole lot better!
-spence
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03-06-2007, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Shore
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John,
Sorry about the news, will keep an eye out within my clients' respective businesses.
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"It was the blackest night! There was no moon in sight! (You know the stars ain't shinnin cause the sky's too tight) "
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03-06-2007, 05:20 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricM
Lots of talk in the development world about the need to develop "knowledge networks" and "networks of expertise." But, here is the key "but" none of these people have any ideas what a real knowledge network is.
However, what you are doing here is running a knowledge network where, in the parlance of the development world, "experts and novices alike voluntarily communicate and share knowledge and best practices with each-other." So you have a specific field of expertise which is valuable. I can't tell you how much money is thrown at development projects that propose to create "knowledge networks" and then they waste hundreds of thousands of dollars and at the end of 4 years they have a website where maybe less than 10 people have posted some random comments relevant to nothing.
Not kidding. So to these people, you are a very marketable commodity. I think something like "Knowledge Network Development and Management Consultant" is around the right title that could put you down in the southern hemisphere for the winter consulting in South America, and back up in the NE for the summer.
PM me, I have ideas.
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John this may be your opportunity.
You could be referee for a couple thousand computer geeks instead of fisherman, they are sorta the same ya know. All types from certifiable to humble and wise.
I went thru the same thing last year when my middle management position was eliminated and it ended up being a good thing. Positive thinking is the key and don't spend a minute wasting your time thinking about what will happen to them now without you.
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03-06-2007, 05:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
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sorry to hear that john, will keep ears open even though i live pretty damn far from salty water.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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03-06-2007, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Sorry to hear that John. Can you swing a hammer or run a screwgun?
Just kidding on the construction thing. Like others have posted, this could be a good thing. A blessing is disguise if you will. Good luck with your job search.
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03-06-2007, 06:35 PM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
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wow
that stinks 
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its no ones fault
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03-06-2007, 06:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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That stinks John !
I hope you don't end up slipping on a wet floor or a banana peel and end up injuring yourself at that school before june and have go out on a disability ! 
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LETS GO BRANDON
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03-06-2007, 08:49 PM
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I need spring!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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John, good luck on the job hunt. I know you'll land on your feet.
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03-06-2007, 08:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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After the pit in the belly goes away, you will find something to your advantage. Be patient and I am sure you will be offered something as good or better.
hang tough.
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low & slow 37
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03-06-2007, 09:29 PM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marshfield
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Well yea it sort of makes sense why they let you go....you know computers basically run themselves and everything. Plus no one really knows if this whole computer thing will catch on so why pay someone to manage something that may not stick around!!!!
Brilliant people over there running that show John. I'm sorry to hear this but things happen for a reason and I am willing to bet you land something better. You do a great job here and this is a big community so I'm sure there are lots of eyes and ears out for something, I know I will. Good luck.
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"Sunshine Day Dream"
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03-06-2007, 09:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NJ
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Sorry to hear it John. Best of luck to you. Good people like you always land on their feet though, so im sure you will find something even better. One door closes another will open.
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03-07-2007, 12:17 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
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Sorry to hear this John. Sometimes another ,better door opens when one closes. Hey it would be a real shame if they were left with no tech support and the whole system sorta "fell apart". Man that would be terrible....
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03-07-2007, 09:00 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,689
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Bummer John, but change can be good, it was for me and I hope it will be for you too. Good luck.
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03-07-2007, 09:17 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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you'll be fine.....I checked for you... 
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03-08-2007, 06:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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I can see it now. RI newspapers headlines July1........Unknown virus cripples school computer network, said to cost millions in loses.....
Good luck on the job find John......
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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03-08-2007, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Hey Guy ....... that REALLY sucks ......... but you know you WILL have the last laugh when they call you to fix something they can't because you are the only one that knows the quirks of the system. Then you can charge a hefty fee and have the educated idiots that don't understand technology personally hand it to you while they kiss your a## ............. Make sure you get a picture of it !!!!!!!!
Shoot ....... you'll make more money for 1/2 the work on the outside anyway ........
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03-08-2007, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Manhattan
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Totally agree w/ RHahn427! (Not "the" Bob Hahn?)...
You'll make a bundle offering them Consulting services when they inevitably need you again once gone (if you so wish to)... or certainly get a better- paying & more growth- oriented job in the private sector (ahem... Finance/ Trading Co.!)
Generally it's always better for a techie in most ways (learning/ adding skills/ environments) in a private Co. w/ $ to burn on the latest & greatest new Techs... and other guys there you can learn from, vs. running the show & being "Mr. everything!" in the public sector. Boy, I guess I know which schools in RI I won't be sending my kids to!
Good luck regardless-- I know you'll be fine from this John, be confident! If you're open to the NYC area (I know, horrors!)... perhaps I could assist?
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03-08-2007, 11:43 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
you'll be fine.....I checked for you... 
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Thanks Ghandi
Quote:
Originally Posted by beamie
I can see it now. RI newspapers headlines July1........Unknown virus cripples school computer network, said to cost millions in loses.....
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It won't be a virus on July 1st it will be a High School student on the 1st week of school with whatever tricks they tried to figure out over the summer to circumvent the firewall / state content filters (TOR / Teredo anyone?). If that's not it then it will be the fact that daily all over the world compromising people or compromised machines hit US school districts due to the fat pipes and often poor tech we have. Think cyberwar and ground zero being your local public school system...
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Originally Posted by rhahn427
Hey Guy ....... that REALLY sucks ......... but you know you WILL have the last laugh when they call you to fix something they can't because you are the only one that knows the quirks of the system. Then you can charge a hefty fee and have the educated idiots that don't understand technology personally hand it to you while they kiss your a## ............. Make sure you get a picture of it !!!!!!!!
Shoot ....... you'll make more money for 1/2 the work on the outside anyway ........
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Beyond $75/hour consulting has to go to bid ($100 I think for higher stuff CISCO, etc). But I told my boss I'd do it for $75 if I have to go onsite or $65 if I do it remotely
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Originally Posted by LeCounts1099
Totally agree w/ RHahn427! (Not "the" Bob Hahn?)...
You'll make a bundle offering them Consulting services when they inevitably need you again once gone (if you so wish to)... or certainly get a better- paying & more growth- oriented job in the private sector (ahem... Finance/ Trading Co.!)
Generally it's always better for a techie in most ways (learning/ adding skills/ environments) in a private Co. w/ $ to burn on the latest & greatest new Techs... and other guys there you can learn from, vs. running the show & being "Mr. everything!" in the public sector. Boy, I guess I know which schools in RI I won't be sending my kids to!
Good luck regardless-- I know you'll be fine from this John, be confident! If you're open to the NYC area (I know, horrors!)... perhaps I could assist?
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The Bob Hahn?
Yes - I'm looking as to where I will go and make a lot more. I figure doubling my Pub Education salary is not out of the question. But I do miss doing it all (the last job desctiption I want is to be called "Patches" because that's all I do in a large environment  ), and so will they.
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