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04-06-2007, 06:12 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,852
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Now if I can only find open- eye Siwash hooks that I can trust will hold once closed!...  [/QUOTE]
Boy is that the truth!! I had a box of 100 6/0 Mustad Siwash open-eye hooks that broke so many times I ended up throwing them away.
I bought a 100 VMC Siwash open-eye hooks from Mikecc and haven't had a probelm in 2 years. |
No boat, back in the suds.  
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04-06-2007, 06:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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I cut em.I like to get as big a hook as I can.I have never had a problem with the cut VMC breaking. I have had issue's with all of the quality split rings..It's just another link.I think the more u eliminate links the better.
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It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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04-06-2007, 07:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 43
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for those of you who cut them, what is the recomended method of cutting?
Thanks
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04-06-2007, 07:18 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Even with split ring pliers, I find changing hooks onto split ring to be a major PITA.... therefore cut VMCs/mustads are a viable solution for me.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-06-2007, 07:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Now if I can only find open- eye Siwash hooks that I can trust will hold once closed!... |
Boy is that the truth!! I had a box of 100 6/0 Mustad Siwash open-eye hooks that broke so many times I ended up throwing them away.
I bought a 100 VMC Siwash open-eye hooks from Mikecc and haven't had a probelm in 2 years.[/QUOTE]
The Mustads are stainless steel and are notoriously brittle 
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04-06-2007, 07:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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Some plugs run better without a split ring. The split ring makes another pivot point and can alter the plugs action. Take the 2 oz pikes I used to make. My favorite way to use them was with a cut VMC on the front. A split ring could be used on the back without much difference. I started putting split rings on the front and back because that is how guys wanted them. I never had a cut VMC fail from the eye openning up. Had quite a few hooks straighten out but that could be due to too tight of a drag.
Beachmaster cowboys and their darters are another 2 examples of plugs working better with a cut hook. My suggestion is ask the builder what he suggests with his plugs as far as split ring versus cut hook and follow that advice.
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04-06-2007, 11:14 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trying for Truro
Posts: 583
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I have been cutting VMC's for years without a breaking problem (Springer - with a metal nipper tool you can get at HD called a dike). Corrosion? Hell yeah. Just change the gd things.
BUT...I have found that a cut hook to a hard point (not a swivel) on a plug (esp my favorite, Mambo Minnows) allows for the fish to get leverage and bend the hook, or worse, the hard point on the lure. I have lost hooks to find the hard point, not the hook, gave way.
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