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Old 04-11-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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About the sennet needle... to make it (actually, it took 5 hours, not 8; I got up late today, simply because I could, and didn't start until 10 AM) I abandoned a lot of the good things we do to our "usual high standards". But it still looks presentable. Again, this was just an experiment. Hopefully the fish (and regretably, the rocks) are going to beat it up anyway. I took a similar profile plug template, that I'm familar with (so, I wasn't starting from scratch, "designing") and tweaked it to look more like the sennet that the bass were chasing. Rather than tail load it -- I'm assuming that if Vic could see "spilled yahoo" in the water, then he wouldn't have had to cast very far -- I spread the weight across the belly, so the lure will slowly sink level if I stop the retrieve... in case I need to get down in the water column a bit. That took an hour, waiting for the hole filler to harden. Then I turned and sanded it, but didn't do the usual seal job... you know why; time for that later... I just primed it with rattle cans, hair-dried for several minutes, then airbrushed the 3-4 colors paint and blow-dried some more to remove the tackiness. Then I baked it in my mancave-dedicated toaster oven -- don't use your wife's (or mom's) if you value your life -- at 200 degrees for 15 minutes, took it out and immediately dipped in a water-based clear acrylic topcoat. It hung for 10-15 minutes or so while I had a smoke, then I re-dipped and flipped the lure end-to-end twice more, so that it's triple coated and -- at least temporarily -- sealed inside and out. I didn't even waste time signing it, or I'd miss the tide.
Thanks, this is very helpful. I've considered (but not tried) heating createx to "set" it. I've also been interested in a water based clear coat, but the tough ones I've located seem to be commerical finishes with/without various crosslinking additives. What product do you use (if you're willing to share) and how has it held up for you?
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:34 PM   #2
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NK,

I've sometimes done something similar to what pasurfer suggests: come back from fishing, knock out a plug to fish the next day. In these cases, its usually just spray can everything, no sealer. Hairdrier to help the paint cure quicker. Samething could be done with airbrush paints (done that too). I used to heat set them, then a thin coat of devcon. Its not fully cured the next day, but hard enough to last long enough to see if I need to make more of that plug or tweak it. Lately, I've been using Rustoleum clear in the spray can. Dries in 15 minutes. I can paint, let dry over night, spray clear in the morning, hooks on when I get to the fishing area. Not something that I would for a plug I was sending to someone else, but good enough for me for a short time.

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Old 04-11-2007, 05:17 PM   #3
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Createx in fact reccomends u heat set thier paints.Especially the Auto Air type..Not sure about the oven thing U don't want to heat up the wood that will make whatever u put in it (sealers) want to come out..

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Old 04-11-2007, 06:02 PM   #4
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Dare I say this : NIB's right... and Jigsy, for that matter. An oven pre-warmed to 200 degrees doesn't bother Createx (or the Krylon primers I used) and sets them nicely in about 15 minutes, but if you're thinking of doing it after traditional sealers... Val-oil, BLO, and such... they will liquify and migrate to the surface. You can trust me on that, or try it for yourself. That's one reason (besides time) that I skipped the sealer. Usually I'll hang 'em to air-cool out of the oven, but I thought the heated wood might suck up the first dipping in topcoat a little better... and I was in a hurry.

George, I've no secrets, but I don't know if it will help you since the acrylic topcoat is some stuff made by a company called Tripp that I bought several years ago from WoodCrafters as they were closing their doors. I haven't since it anywhere else. As Jigsy suggests, this isn't something I normally would do for trades and the like but this one's for me, and if it doesn't hold up as is I can always repaint it later.

I guess my whole point here was not to lock into the same old, same old, if the fish are chowing on something you don't have... it really wouldn't take you too long to come up with a solution to the problem. Heck, the real old timers used to paint the suckers behind the dunes with whatever the "hot" color was that day, then walk out and fish 'em. Well, almost.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:12 PM   #5
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Well Vic i tried to imitate this fish as best as i could and my wife said i looked ridicules and that i'm too fat .
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:35 PM   #6
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we all know stripers are oppertunists but....

i have used live senate a million plus times for fluke and never ever had a hit...why is beyond me. i have also run into large schools of them diving and despite numerous stripers in the vacinity they went unmolested.

maybe i missed something but i'd sooner mimick a schoolie then a senate
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:17 AM   #7
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we all know stripers are oppertunists but....

i have used live senate a million plus times for fluke and never ever had a hit...why is beyond me. i have also run into large schools of them diving and despite numerous stripers in the vacinity they went unmolested.

maybe i missed something but i'd sooner mimick a schoolie then a senate
Arden, dude relax lay off the red bull. This is the first in a series of imitate this threads, its just the first one.. Hopefully with enough participation there will be others And who knows maybe they'll be some interest in making a schoolie

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:46 AM   #8
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I know when I was doing my floors one time I used some waterborne polyurethane that is very thin stuff. Kind of white milky when wet but dries clear in an hour or 2. when it dried on your finger nails it was as thin as saran wrap. It was water based so I bet you could dip an unsealed painted plug in that, and it would probably help protect the inside a bit. I haven't tried it, but I never tried to fish a plug the next day either...
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:30 AM   #9
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I know when I was doing my floors one time I used some waterborne polyurethane that is very thin stuff. Kind of white milky when wet but dries clear in an hour or 2. when it dried on your finger nails it was as thin as saran wrap. It was water based so I bet you could dip an unsealed painted plug in that, and it would probably help protect the inside a bit. I haven't tried it, but I never tried to fish a plug the next day either...
DJ, i've used a waterborne Urethane, which drys in 6 hrs as a sealer and clear coat

If you want to use a plug the next day it works. But, cracks easy on rocks and will peel if you don't let the clear really dry for a few days.

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Old 04-17-2007, 05:25 PM   #10
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:55 PM   #12
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Which one is the sennet, Fred.

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