Wife beaters, all of you!!!!!

[Mugz]

Originally Posted by wheresmy50

Maybe it's just my mood today, but this seems like a load of crap to me. As far as my trigger finger is concerned, the only way you can shoot someone in this area of the country is if your life or someone elses life is in immediate danger. Being fed up with your daily beatings is reason enough to leave or call the police, but I don't see how it gives you the legal right to kill your husband.

By the same logic, a high-school student who gets bullied has the right to shoot the bully. Anyone think that's a good idea?

She probably feared for her life if she were to move out. Domestic abuse is nasty.....she probably knew that he would either kill her or one of her kids eventually. How long can you go taking beatings? and abuse? The guy beat the sh!t out of her!!!!........in my opinion, the guy is a coward and a loser....and you guys are sticking up for him, I don't care if he fished or not?
The mental abuse the woman took probably weighed heavily on her every move, every day, along with her mental state, just hoping she wouldn't get beaten.

[mosholu]

Originally Posted by Mugz

She probably feared for her life if she were to move out. Domestic abuse is nasty.....she probably knew that he would either kill her or one of her kids eventually. How long can you go taking beatings? and abuse? The guy beat the sh!t out of her!!!!........in my opinion, the guy is a coward and a loser....and you guys are sticking up for him, I don't care if he fished or not?
The mental abuse the woman took probably weighed heavily on her every move, every day, along with her mental state, just hoping she wouldn't get beaten.

Mugz I do not believe that anyone disagrees with your comments about domestic abuse or the guy if that is what happened. I think the point we are trying to make is there are alternate steps to take in situations like this before you can kill someone. Not all the facts are known so we do not know. You are correct in saying that those steps often may not work. However you have to take them. At the very least it establishes that you were afraid for your life for a period of time and that supports your self defense theory.

[Mugz]

Originally Posted by mosholu

Mugz I do not believe that anyone disagrees with your comments about domestic abuse or the guy if that is what happened. I think the point we are trying to make is there are alternate steps to take in situations like this before you can kill someone. Not all the facts are known so we do not know. You are correct in saying that those steps often may not work. However you have to take them. At the very least it establishes that you were afraid for your life for a period of time and that supports your self defense theory.

She was a beaten down woman at the lowest of lows in her life.....maybe the law protects the guy from being shot, but in my opinion.......you beat a woman, your a lowlife scum, loser. If she was that bad a wife, instead of beating her he could have left her as well.
She probably bought his boat.
Facts are not proven......I agree. If he beat her....then I really don't feel sorry for him, sorry. I hope he catches the big fish in Hell.

[fishpoopoo]

IANAL so i'm not sure where the burden has to fall in this case - but

1) either the defendant has to prove that she was in immediate danger of grave bodily harm and/or death and she couldn't retreat ... (forensics will say a lot about this)

OR

2) the prosecution has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that what transpired was "merely" simple assault, for which deadly force was not justified.

without knowing the specifics of the case, it looks like to me #2.

to make it worse: based on the newspaper accounts, she probably violated armed citizen cardinal rule #1 post-shooting: "STFU and lawyer up." What she said to the cops can and will be used against her.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

IANAL so i'm not sure where the burden has to fall in this case - but

1) either the defendant has to prove that she was in immediate danger of grave bodily harm and/or death and she couldn't retreat ... (forensics will say a lot about this)

OR

2) the prosecution has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that what transpired was "merely" simple assault, for which deadly force was not justified.

without knowing the specifics of the case, it looks like to me #2.

to make it worse: based on the newspaper accounts, she probably violated armed citizen cardinal rule #1 post-shooting: "STFU and lawyer up." What she said to the cops can and will be used against her.

OR

3) the Commonwealth has to find 12 jurors who will unanimously agree, without one dissenting vote, that she deserves to be sent away for life for what she did.

All it'll take for that not to happen is one juror who'll tell the other 11, "she should have shot the no-good SOB years ago. You folks do what you want. My vote's not guilty and you won't change my mind"

[fishpoopoo]

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[chris L]

I wish my wife would stop beating me . I give her all I can but she wants more . plus she hates me . I keep my guns locked up in a chastity belt .