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04-12-2007, 03:43 PM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
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im pretty sure there was a huge article in last months national geographic on this topic which does site overseas fishing guys as a big cause of the problem.
Im also under the impression us new englanders are a miniscule (sp?) part of the problem. Last years tuna bite seemed to last 3 maybe 4 weeks from what people were posting, the rest of the year was 1 here and there, and from what i saw the one time i did go out was a frickin parking lot, with only 2 reports of hook ups... (us being one)
Thanks ronnie 
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04-12-2007, 07:03 PM
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Registered LUser
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mashpee, MA
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US regulations on tuna don't even make a difference if they're not coordinated with all of the other countries that stake a claim on these highly migratory fish. It's like being the one person out of ten thousand who rides their bike to work instead of taking the Suburban. It doesn't really matter unless we all work together. We just have to wait for the Mediterranean tuna fisheries to entirely collapse and for there to be no commercial fleet to confound conservation measures; then, when there are barely any fish left, some decent regulations will surface.
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The worst day fishing is better than the best day working. ...Wait a minute, my work IS fishing. Sweet.
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04-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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That's also pretty pathetic.
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04-12-2007, 10:44 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
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Lets first be honest, The GBFT fishery is dead on the east coast. Let me say it again it is DEAD. Without a consistent supply of bait i.e. herring due to over fishing for them by the trawlers they wont be caught in huge numbers like before. Secondly until the population of tuna and the ocean is looked at as ONE ecosystem and one cohesive population to protect, the fish (tuna) will continue to be raped by other countries who either dont have stringent rules or who dont care because of the financial windfall they might reap by over harvesting these fish. Look what goes on over in the Mediterranean. The farming and killing of juveniles and the spawning sized fish is horrible and irresponsible. Penning fish to fatten them up and then sell for big $$$ leads itself to overfishing and should be outlawed.
The fishery has changed due to the above reasons and other factors but tuna fishing is now a RECREATIONAL game and one we should be careful on how we manage this resource. Personally I think the regs are NOT conducive to sustaining a healthy population. Why wouldn't we want a strong year class to develop to 47" which is considered by the experts sexually mature and reproduce? I wish the regs were 50" and one per day. 27" is nuts. How much meat is that 27" fish really going to yield? I understand that only 5% of all the boats catch and that the recs dont really have much if any of an impact on the population but are the regs shortsighted? I hope not. My greatest wish for these fish is to be able to see the giants return in the numbers of a decade ago or even more and ensure that my daughter will be able to fish for these fish when she is old enough.
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Make America Great Again.
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04-13-2007, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gloucester, MA
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To my knowledge there is no science that states a 47" BFT in the Western Atlantic is sexually mature. Some relatively recent papers are even suggesting upper 90's. Maybe in the med, but not on our side of the pond, i.e., spawned in the Gulf of Mexico. It is also common that if a stock is stressed enough the averages age at maturity can be decrease.
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04-13-2007, 08:20 AM
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Spot Preserver
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Location: Mansfield
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SM,
There is new findings that at 47" they are sexually mature and also that the "old" belief of two distinct groups of bft might actually be one and the same. There is evidence of "mixing" as some scientists call it. Some tagged fish from our waters have been recaught over there in the Meditteranean. National Geographic sheds some light on the increasing issue at hand.
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Make America Great Again.
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04-13-2007, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gloucester, MA
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KR,
Could you share where you are getting the size at maturity information/findings?
I understand the two stock theory, and lets just note that it is just a theory, and with the deployment of pop-up satellite tags the level of mixing in far greater than previous estimated. I am also aware that the studies in otolith microconstituent analysis that can used to determine geography of spawning, ether Med or GOM are making great strides in shedding some light on the stock theory.
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