Shoud illegal immigrants be eligible for Social Security benefits?

[stripersnipr]

As much as some people will fight and argue against the notion, illegal immigration is in my opinion, the single greatest economic threat this country faces. Today millions of criminal aliens are rallying for increased services and rights that they are not entitled to while waving the flag of a foreign country. Our Government on both sides has no intention of doing a damn thing about it for fear of offending a voting block and being labeled with the R word. Democrat or Republican, Americans need to unite on this issue before our votes are worthless.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

As much as some people will fight and argue against the notion, illegal immigration is in my opinion, the single greatest economic threat this country faces.

This notion is absurd, and I'd argue not backed by any real facts. For all the drain on social services there's a huge offset in worker productivity and tax revenues.

The single greatest economic threat to this country is global disruption to energy.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

This notion is absurd, and I'd argue not backed by any real facts. For all the drain on social services there's a huge offset in worker productivity and tax revenues.

The single greatest economic threat to this country is global disruption to energy.

-spence

LMAO....the only thing absurd is your dismissal of an opinion shared by many minds far greater than yours. Tell us exactly what that offset is or I'll just consider it more Moonbat drivel unsupported by fact.

[Squid kids Dad]

It's all Bush's fault...

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

LMAO....the only thing absurd is your dismissal of an opinion shared by many minds far greater than yours. Tell us exactly what that offset is or I'll just consider it more Moonbat drivel.

spence is right. Think about it. Our country can do something to solve imigration problems, but look what happened when a nation threatened to sell their oil on the euro and not the US dollar??

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Nebe

spence is right. Think about it. Our country can do something to solve imigration problems, but look what happened when a nation threatened to sell their oil on the euro and not the US dollar??

I agree our country can do something about the illegal immigration issue and we can also do something about dependence on foreign energy. Both pose serious threats until something is actually done about them.

[Raven]

if you had a magic wand....

and with a wave of your hand you could
deport all illegal aliens out of this country
right back to brazil and mexico ect.

it would plunge us instantly into a recession
if not another depression.....

we are as dependent upon their labor as much
as we are dependent on foreign oil....

you have to physically see the many miles and
miles of orange groves,vineyards and other row crop
acreages in florida and california to realize the
enormous job it is to harvest food in the USA.

so until we robotize this nation with several million
illegal alien replacements we need them for the economy.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

LMAO....the only thing absurd is your dismissal of an opinion shared by many minds far greater than yours. Tell us exactly what that offset is or I'll just consider it more Moonbat drivel unsupported by fact.

First you justify your argument that it's the largest threat.

You made the claim.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

First you justify your argument that it's the largest threat.

You made the claim.

-spence

Global disruption of energy could happen and would be disasterous to our economy. A half mile wide comet could also strike New York causing an unprecedended economic meltdown. Illegal immigrants are now, today, draining our social economic systems, stealing jobs, overburdening our health care, educational, and penal systems, stealing more jobs, lowering wages of the working class, etc. etc. to the point of near disaster. Thats what makes illegal immigration a more real, present threat to our economy today than the myriad of things that could possibly happen.

[spence]

That's not justification...it's a silly rant.

You think energy disruption is on par with interplanetary disruption? You do realize there's more to the paper than just the Lifestyle section, right?

Show me some quantification, what's the drain in real dollars...then you have something to compare.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

That's not justification...it's a silly rant.

You think energy disruption is on par with interplanetary disruption? You do realize there's more to the paper than just the Lifestyle section, right?

Show me some quantification, what's the drain in real dollars...then you have something to compare.

-spence

Nice bob, but a crappy weave. Refer to the Center for Immigration studies table posted above and if thats not enough quantification for you extrapolate on it and consider those are 2002 numbers and the situation has clearly gotten worse. Now tell us how your "Huge Offset" theory nullifies those facts.

Your comparison of the possibilty of Global Energy Disruption to the current Illegal Immigration occurence is like saying the Great White shark that might come out of the depths and eat you is more of a threat than the Tiger Shark that already has you in its jaws becuase it's bigger and badder.