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Old 05-16-2007, 03:20 PM   #1
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This country was founded on the principle of seperation of church and state and the freedom of religion, speech and several other key ideals.

When John Kennedy was running for President he was grilled by the Democrats and GOP on his catholicism and how that would affect his running the country and he reaffirmed that the idea of seperation of church and state would not be affected in anyway.

Falwell has dragged this country into a quagmire of the religious right trying to interject thier beliefs as the countrys only righteous policy and in doing so has helped divide this country in more ways than it has ever been since the slavery issue and brought us to where we are today with the Bush presidency and his total mismanagement of the Federal Govt and world affirs based on religious beliefs rather than diplomacy and the word and law of the constitution.

Good riddance Mr. Falwell.

Sounds like your issue isnt so much with Falwell, but with religion in general. You seem to have some kinda hatred and distrust for people who pratcice religion. I dont see any long winded post from you regarding Islam, the religion that is the root of most of worlds problems today.

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Old 05-16-2007, 03:24 PM   #2
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I dont see any long winded post from you regarding Islam, the religion that is the root of most of worlds problems today.


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Old 05-16-2007, 03:27 PM   #3
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:29 PM   #4
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Good one Skippy

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Ahhh Spence loves Islam! Those peace loving folks. No Radicals in that Religion!.All they do is strap bombs to thier chest, and fly planes into buildings killing 3000 folks in the name in Allah. But nah, thier religion is so peaceful.

Seems some on here are more concerned and outraged about the religious right, than they are of radical Islam.

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Old 05-17-2007, 07:35 AM   #5
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I dont see any long winded post from you regarding Islam, the religion that is the root of most of worlds problems today.

In 1984, he was ordered to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, California, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches "brute beasts" and "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven."


After the September 11, 2001 attacks, Falwell said on the 700 Club, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" Fellow evangelist Pat Robertson concurred with his sentiment.

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals."

Like this guy is any better than Bin Laden or any other person out there who spewed hate and bile.
Get with it skip, you're straight up racist, if Bin Laden was white you wouldn't be so quick to jump on the anti-Islam train. Anyone who takes religion like Bin Laden or Falwell is WRONG.

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Old 05-17-2007, 07:48 AM   #6
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:07 PM   #7
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Get with it skip, you're straight up racist, if Bin Laden was white you wouldn't be so quick to jump on the anti-Islam train. Anyone who takes religion like Bin Laden or Falwell is WRONG.

%$%$%$%$ you Likwid, Last i checked Bin Laden killed nearly 3000 Americans. I didnt realize Falwel was also a mass murdering terrosist.

your thinking is so twisted its rather scary

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%$%$%$%$ you Likwid, Last i checked Bin Laden killed nearly 3000 Americans. I didnt realize Falwel was also a mass murdering terrosist.

your thinking is so twisted its rather scary
Yes BinLaden is a bad guy, so much so that he not Saddam is the one person that GW should have focused our entire resources on militarily and otherwise but, at the same time, Bin Laden is not our society's only problem and in this case we are addressing the issue of Mr. Falwell, who single handedly and through non-violent means but with the hate rethoric included, has ripped this country away from it's core values of it's founding fathers that being seperation of church and state and who, like Bi Laden, had as his dream, the creation of a fundamentalist religion-based goverment.

The means and methods were different but the desired end result was the same. Repression and fear.

The world has many problems not just Bin Laden, Falwell, religion or secterian problems and misguided souls such as Mr. Falwell are just one of many facets of the threat against us.

Look harder and you will see the whole picture.

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The means and methods were different but the desired end result was the same. Repression and fear.

Look harder and you will see the whole picture.

I have two in-laws who live in Ca. that are participants in this type of religon. One has a grad degree in business from a prestigious school and the other is a nurse mid-wife praticioner. Thier pastor told them that life on earth began appropximately six to eight thousand years ago. And they believe that. I had a show on a few years ago aboutsliver-backed apes and my brother-in-law turned the tv off and forbid me to watch that type of show. He said it is insulting that certain so-called scientists say we evolved from an ape possibly.

I love my in-laws dearly but I'll never stay at thier house again.

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Old 05-18-2007, 07:33 AM   #10
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Last i checked Bin Laden killed nearly 3000 Americans.
And how many hate crimes have idiots like Falwell spawned? Probably just as many IF NOT MORE!

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Neither is OBL, his followers did it for him, JUST LIKE FALWELLS LITTLE SHEEP.

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No dude, I live in reality where OBL didn't fly a plane but a bunch of people he convinced to do so did. Where brainless morons in this country take what Falwell says as "the word of god" and mindlessly follow.

And yanno, if I had a choice of being blown up by a suicide bomber, or having a bunch of redneck fools who think im gay beat me and drag me with chains behind their pickup truck, I'll take the suicide bomber. Thanks.

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