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Oh, and Frank, if you have big hands, you might want to try the 4000 on a rod before you buy it. I find it sits closer to the rod than the Penn SSs do--the mounting shaft is a little shorter than the Penns'. this means that if you're using gloves when it's cold, the bail will hit the knuckles on your rod-holding hand; mine hits sometimes even without gloves, but just barely.
The sustains are angled to the rod at 4 degrees whereas the Penn SS reels are not angled at all to the rod. The Penns have a zero degree angle of incidence to the rod. Because of this tiny difference, the line comes off the Sustains evenly on both the top and bottom of the spool, whereas there's more pull on the bottom of the spool and less on the top of a Penn. I think this causes a little distance loss--you can hear this happening when casting with a Penn.
Let's see, that's 2 more cents worth.
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