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View Poll Results: When did America start to go to Hell
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The Fifties
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The Sixties
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What do you mean, this country is better than ever!
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Thsi Country has always been hell!
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06-07-2007, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
when Richard Nixon took office.
he started all the Crap.
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Which office?  ... Senator, VP?.. yeah his presidency.. but look at his past record.. Joe McCarthy and all that chit... I'm wondering about the beginings, and not just politics.. politics and politicians, no matter the party, have always been Suspect....
I'm thinking more of how folks treated each other in general.
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06-07-2007, 07:21 PM
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Not Nixon but L. Johnson he is the one who made social security part of the general fund so they could tap into it.He imho started the ball rolling.
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06-07-2007, 07:28 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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methinks it began with dilusion of our populations morals not some politico crap....
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06-07-2007, 07:31 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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The correct answer is......and let me know if you disagree.....when the television was invented! The beginning of the end! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-07-2007, 07:40 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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....june 14, 1923 first tv. are you basing this on the downfall of FAMILY values due to tv?.....you may not be wrong....
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06-07-2007, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
methinks it began with dilusion of our populations morals not some politico crap....
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I think a lot of the moral issues have more to do with politico crap than reality.
-spence
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06-07-2007, 07:47 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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could you elaborate spence?
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06-07-2007, 07:52 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Its the TV! Then came the news, media, Paparrazi, news 24 hours.....as a result of television the world got smaller......the computer came along as the result of or as a byproduct of the television......Pandoras Box for sure!!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-07-2007, 07:54 PM
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A tremendous amount of perceived moral decline is just political manipulation.
This isn't to say that there isn't real change that can have a negative impact to a generally agreed to norm. But I think that the base morals of Judeo Christian ethics are pretty stable.
A lot of the ethically challenged behavior that goes on today has been going on for some time, if not forever. It's how the issues are perceived that's in flux.
There's a reference frame to consider as well. I'd put many if not all gay rights issues into this camp.
-spence
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06-07-2007, 08:00 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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November 22, 1963.
The end of America's innocence and the genesis of the distrust of government.
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