be careful when fishing alone

[spence]

A sidearm while fishing...are you guys n#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g futs?

If anything carry pepper spray, anything else isn't going to be worth the legal hassle when you have to justify defending yourself.

-spence

[afterhours]

Originally Posted by spence

A sidearm while fishing...are you guys n#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g futs?

If anything carry pepper spray, anything else isn't going to be worth the legal hassle when you have to justify defending yourself.

-spence

rather be tryed by 12 than be carried by 6. iffin' you have a permit to carry- you're silly not to these days.

[spence]

Originally Posted by afterhours

rather be tryed by 12 than be carried by 6. iffin' you have a permit to carry- you're silly not to these days.

Silly not to? It's not like we live in that violent a place. Granted, I feel for the guy, but this seems to be a very isolated event...

-spence

[MAC]

Originally Posted by spence

Silly not to? It's not like we live in that violent a place. Granted, I feel for the guy, but this seems to be a very isolated event...

-spence

Even if it isn't that violent of a place, carrying will only add a little extra weight. The fisher would have been justified in doing what he had to if he had been carrying. Chances are if these 6 meatballs had seen a sidearm, they would have beat feet.

Granted I would hate to shoot someone. But if I feared for my life they would have been onthe losing end. None of them would have wanted to be the first one with an extra orifice.

Oh and pepper spray doesn't work on everyone. When I was in the service we had to do the CS gas tent. It is a confidence thing so you believe in your mask. You filed into the building and stood at parade rest. The DI would them come in and explain what was going to happen. He would then crack 3 CS canisters. Someone would yell GAS and everyone would mask up....except for our DI. He would walk up to each soldier and have them unmask. Your eyes would shut and your nose and throat would be on fire. You had to sound off with name, rank and social sec #. Most guys would hold their breath before unmasking and just spit it all out with a held breath. The DI would then ask the soldier something else forcing him to take a breath. CS makes pepper spray seem like cotton candy. A guy like the Drill Seargent Mallet would have laughed at ya if ya squirted him with the spray. So my advise is if you carry spray be prepared. You may use it on a guy like the DI I had in basic.

I would imagine saltwater isn't very good for the canisters either.

[spence]

Originally Posted by MAC

Even if it isn't that violent of a place, carrying will only add a little extra weight. The fisher would have been justified in doing what he had to if he had been carrying. Chances are if these 6 meatballs had seen a sidearm, they would have beat feet.

Could post M18A1's around your perimiter as well

Seriously I just don't see it. I wouldn't have any fun fishing a location I felt was that threatening. Surfcasting at night can be dangerous enough as it is.

A much better bet would be to not fish alone.

-spence

[zimmy]

A lot harder to fend off six guys with a knife than a gun. Can't convince my wife of this... Just having it would have probably been enough to keep this from going down that way.

[Pete_G]

Louisville Slugger. My weapon of choice.

Lets be real, a knife doesn't do much against a rock. And in the dark it doesn't offer quite the visual deterrence (without making it very visible) that a nice baseball bat does. You can visibly leave a bat hanging out of your trunk or at the edge of a pickup bed if you're feeling nervous due to someone nearby.

And, you can inflict serious, disabling pain with far less potential for manslaughter then you could with a gun or knife. One negative is you can't really handle a firearms with a bat.

No permit or anything else needed too. Obviously you can't tote it out with you when fishing, but it's still ideal when you're at your vehicle which is where a lot of these incidents go down, I would imagine.

I'm still trying to confirm who the victim is of this incident. I have a bad feeling it's someone I know, as he was heading there in the AM that day and haven't heard from him since.

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by spence

Silly not to? It's not like we live in that violent a place. Granted, I feel for the guy, but this seems to be a very isolated event...

-spence

Unfortunately, people being the victim of violent crimes is hardly a rare event. I agree it is rare that a fisherman is jumped at 4am by 6 goons, but in general, society is incredibly violent. In fact, the US leads the world in violence, but the good news is the rest of the world is catching up. Read Col. David Grossamn's books on violence and killing or "Killology", it is.....interesting to say the least.

[protty31]

Man I was just down the road about the same time that morning. What is wierd though, a blazer pulled up and two guys got out and one had just shorts and a t on(it was very cold) he kind up stood a little behind me to the side and I was thinking what the @#@# is this guy doing(he was just standing staring at me for a minute) as my hand went to my knife and then they started getting fly fishing gear out and and I was at ease,but they didn't look like fly fisherman.You never know! I hope that guy is ok

[Raven]

all six are guilty of assault with a deadly weapon (the rock)
if they operated in force together...

they should all do hard time.

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by spence

A sidearm while fishing...are you guys n#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g futs?

If anything carry pepper spray, anything else isn't going to be worth the legal hassle when you have to justify defending yourself.

-spence

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

What legal hassle (other than defending yourself against use of lethal force?) are you referring to?

Mass issues LTC in many cases and Rhode Island is SHALL-ISSUE for residents.

Anyways...