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View Poll Results: When did America start to go to Hell
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The Fifties
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5.77% |
The Sixties
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40.38% |
The Seventies
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9.62% |
The Eighties
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25.00% |
What do you mean, this country is better than ever!
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11.54% |
Thsi Country has always been hell!
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06-15-2007, 11:08 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Just my two cents, but when parents decided that being a childs best friend/buddy and not a parent, such as they were prior to the 60's, to me is the precursor to todays current problems. This repeal of heavy-handed parenting, and the general relaxation of moral/legal standards within and without the family structure has lead to where we are today. Our government is only a reflection of our current needs and desires. At least in the blue states.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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06-15-2007, 12:20 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
Just my two cents, but when parents decided that being a childs best friend/buddy and not a parent, such as they were prior to the 60's, to me is the precursor to todays current problems.
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Boy, i've seen alot of that. One thing everyone needs is boundaries, especially kids.
A parent should be just that,a parent, showing by example what proper and improper behavior is.
Go to any kid's competitive event and see how the parents act on what they consider a bad call.
No restraint, so how are the kids going to act any different?
When parents back the kid with a problem in school rather then the teacher, how do they learn respect?
If they're not taught manners, values and morals in the home, where are they going to learn it?
Imho, i think some parents are afraid if they're not their kid's best friend they won't like them.
It's not about liking, it's about teaching and setting good examples and boundaries to prepare them for life.
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" Choose Life "
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06-15-2007, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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well spoken Swimmer and JPI
the catch phrase
wait til your father comes home
no longer has any meaning....
now a days the kids can just divorce their parents
what the hell is up with that
sad to say this...
but in todays world ...i'm glad i don't have kids.
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06-15-2007, 04:47 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
the catch phrase
wait til your father comes home
no longer has any meaning....
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Ya Rav, and it wasn't because he spanked ya,
although i had more than one sore butt i deserved  ,
it was because he demanded and got respect.
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" Choose Life "
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06-15-2007, 07:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 57
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me thinks you need to go back a bit further. it all started in a garden, with a man and a woman and a snake, under a fruit tree. its been downhill ever since.
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06-15-2007, 08:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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the fruit was a magic mushroom
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06-15-2007, 09:26 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKFISH
me thinks you need to go back a bit further. it all started in a garden, with a man and a woman and a snake, under a fruit tree. its been downhill ever since.
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" Choose Life "
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06-16-2007, 07:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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It started going to hell, when we stopped looking one another in the eye and say hello as we pass on the street. Even strangers. It started when kids couldn't play outside after dusk playing hide and seek and catch fireflies, unsupervised. It started when we began being punished for something we MIGHT do and then let off the hook when we DID do it. It started when the first working stiff was let go after 20 years just to keep profits up, not save the company.It started when stores started thinking "who's this arsehole" instead of saying" how can I help you today?" It started with pictures on the cash registers instead of numbers. It started when we the people started accepting injustice, unfairness and just a general lack of care for each other. In my opinion this Country is no more than an echo of what it once aspired to, the idea is still there, we say all the right words, but in reality, we're full of it. Our execution is just lame across the board. My rant for the day..
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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