I Don't Care

[likwid]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

>Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it!

Ignorant and full of herself? Yep, definitely sounds like she's from Jersey.

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

> "Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
>started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September
>11, 2001?

It started long before that, and as long as you all believe this, you're doomed to repeat history. Over and over and over.

But I agree with Spence, tear up the constitution, declare a police state, lets start more intern camps! GIT R DUN!

Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min: 66500 Max: 72800

Are you happy yet?

And on the winning hearts and minds front:

Friday 22 June:

Khalis: the US military announces that its attack helicopters, armed
with missiles, have engaged and killed 17 al-Qaeda gunmen who had been trying to
infiltrate the village of al-Khalis, north of Baquba, where operation
"Arrowhead Ripper" had been under way for the previous three days.

But villagers in largely-Shia al-Khalis say that those who died had nothing
to do with al-Qaeda. They say they were local village guards trying to
protect the township from exactly the kind of attack by insurgents the US
military says it foiled.
They say that of 16 guards, 11 were killed and five others injured - two of
them seriously - when US helicopters fired rockets at them and then strafed
them with heavy machinegun fire.
Minutes before the attack, they had been co-operating with an Iraqi police
unit raiding a suspected insurgent hideout, the villagers said.
They added that the guards, lightly armed with the AK47 assault rifles that
are a feature of practically every home in Iraq, were essentially a local
neighbourhood watch paid by the village to monitor the dangerous
insurgent-ridden area to the immediate south-west at Arab Shawkeh and
Hibhib.

THE VICTIMS
Jassem Khalil, the Mukhtar of Hayy al-Junoud; Abbas Khalil, his brother; Ali Khalil, his other brother; Kamal Hadi, their cousin;
Shaker Adnan; Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim; Mohammad al-Zubaie; Abbas Muzhir Fadhel; Jamal Hussein Alwan; Abdul Hussein Abdullah; Ali Jawad Kadhem

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by likwid

Ignorant and full of herself? Yep, definitely sounds like she's from Jersey.



It started long before that, and as long as you all believe this, you're doomed to repeat history. Over and over and over.

But I agree with Spence, tear up the constitution, declare a police state, lets start more intern camps! GIT R DUN!



Are you happy yet?

And on the winning hearts and minds front:

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been in the military, LEO, a shootout, or anything that would qualify you to know exactly what was going on when these "innocent" people were fired upon. People are always quick to jump to conclusions without walking in the other persons shoes. Unfortunately innocent civillians getting killed in military ops has and will always be part of the price of doing business, no matter who's side you are on.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been in the military, LEO, a shootout, or anything that would qualify you to know exactly what was going on when these "innocent" people were fired upon.

The better question is, has she?
I mean that's getting forwarded all over the internet, so you might as well make sure your source has.

Its easy to send an e-mail, its hard to stand up and question whats going on. Standing by and accepting what happens in the world is ignorant and foolish.

Go ahead, call me unamerican, call me a traitor, call me what you want, but if it wasn't for a bunch of people who questioned who was running the show, and didn't like what they were being forced to do or be, you wouldn't be here.

[TheSpecialist]

Whether or not she was has no bearing, all she is saying is that no matter what the troops are doing, they are in a %$%$%$%$ty situation, and anything they have done is not nearly half as bad as what those puke ass mother %$%$%$%$ing cowards did on 9-11, and she does'nt want you to forget that. Whether you agree with her or not, she makes a valid ploint that as the years have passed people in this country seem to forget. Whether you agree with the war, or the way it was started, who started it, does'nt mean anything, sure maybe there was'nt any Al Quaeda link back then, but you can't deny they are there now and that is who we are fighting

Now back to my question, you guys throw around the constitution stuff all of the time, so show me the section that cover non US citizens on foreign soil.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

all she is saying is that no matter what the troops are doing, they are in a %$%$%$%$ty situation, and anything they have done is not nearly half as bad as what those puke ass mother %$%$%$%$ing cowards did on 9-11, and she does'nt want you to forget that.

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.

sure maybe there was'nt any Al Quaeda link back then, but you can't deny they are there now and that is who we are fighting

Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard.

[TheSpecialist]

Ok I give up your always right, and everyone else is always wrong. Have a nice day.

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by likwid

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.



Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard.

You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Bronko

You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

They already do. It's called Air America.........oh wait, thats right, Air America is bankrupt because most people don't believe and won't listen to that crap.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Bronko

You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

Oh I'm sorry, lets get back to the good ole boy git r dun attitude.

I'm sorry I don't s the d of this administration and believe every BS line they spew forth. I'll go line up for my green uniform, national ID card, barcode tattoo and salute lessons immediately.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by likwid

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.



Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard.

So I say yes it is ok for our military to torture combatants, they cut off Nick Berg's head while he was alive and kicking is that not torture. They did the same to Daniel Pearl is that not torture/ By the way they were not military but civilians, one reporting on the war, the other a businessman setting up telecomm work. But I guess it is ok for the fundamentalist to torture and kill civillians

[likwid]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

So I say yes it is ok for our military to torture combatants, they cut off Nick Berg's head while he was alive and kicking is that not torture.

But we're somehow a civilized country.
We're not a 3rd world country.

"When you kill a monster, be careful, lest you become the monster in the process."

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Likwid maybe you should stop believing everything you read...

The same should be said about you and the country you live in.

I think I'm gonna start a "doesn't anyone remember Vietnam?" chain letter.