Helicopter Collision Blame??? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 07-30-2007, 04:43 PM

You see the other day when those 2 news copters in Arizona collided and crashed to the ground while covering a high speed auto chase on the ground?? Well they are saying that the man involved in the high speed chase may be held responsible for the deaths of the 4 people who were killed in the crash??? Now, don't get me wrong.....I understand that the crash never would have happened had the man not been involved in the high speed chase to begin with but I think its a real stretch to try and pin the deaths of these 4 people on him!!! My reasoning is this......there was a pilot and a camera man on each copter, the job of the camera man is to get the chase on video, the job of the pilot is to pay attention to where they are flying, not watching the damn chase!!! I heard the audio of the pilots and it seems that one or both of the pilots was at fault for the crash as they did not know the other copter was in the area!!! Seems they have to blame someone for everything these days!!!

Jenn · 07-30-2007, 04:47 PM

I agree 100%.

Not trying to make light of tragedy but the pilots should have been more aware....

basswipe · 07-30-2007, 04:50 PM

I agree.Blaming the moron who was being pursued on the crash is laughable at best.PC'ness at its best.

UserRemoved1 · 07-30-2007, 05:39 PM

I can see charging the guy. Both were top pilots. It's my understanding they didn't fly into each other from the same height, one came up from underneath the other. I could see that happening, but they were supposed to be in contact with each othere on the chopper channel and obviously weren't. Bottom line is I think they'll find it a total accident when the final report comes out.

But the loser who they caught taking a nap at a friends house, yea I think he should be charged.

striperman36 · 07-30-2007, 05:43 PM

Try flying with at least 3 copters within 500', even r/c it ain't easy

Backbeach Jake · 07-30-2007, 06:00 PM

There were 3 choppers there, 1 police and 2 News. That's to(two?) many. The TV Stations' greed killed those men.

Saltheart · 07-31-2007, 08:05 AM

The choppers had no need to be there. If you want the scoop , you are responsible if you die trying to get it. The guy in the car has nothing to do with helicopters. You might stretch to say the police chopper had to be there and somehow he might be liable if they crashed but the news choppers are needless parasites who live or die on their own accord.

PaulS · 07-31-2007, 08:17 AM

The driver did not put the copter folks at risk. They put themselves at risk by following the chase. I can see charging the driver if he passed someone and they pulled over to get out of the way and got into an accident.

Slipknot · 07-31-2007, 08:19 AM

ok so when there is a crash on one side of the highway and somebody is rubbernecking on the other side of the highway and causes an accident, I guess it's not his fault for rubbernecking and not paying attention so the ins. co. can blame the first accident for his

is that how it works now in our society? gheeesh

Swimmer · 08-01-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

ok so when there is a crash on one side of the highway and somebody is rubbernecking on the other side of the highway and causes an accident, I guess it's not his fault for rubbernecking and not paying attention so the ins. co. can blame the first accident for his

is that how it works now in our society? gheeesh

There ar no accidents only crashes that happen for a reason! If a felony had occurred during the chase or it was the reason for the chase then the felony-murder rule may apply.

I think it is a stretch though, regardless.

BigFish · 08-01-2007, 11:31 AM

There is not a lawyer in the land can make charges like this stick!

Raven · 08-01-2007, 11:37 AM

for posting this story

and
now my eyes are severely tired from reading
and i have eyeball exhaustion .....damages

my insurance companies attourney
will be calling...

yours

The Dad Fisherman · 08-01-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

There is not a lawyer in the land can make charges like this stick!

Don't be so sure on that one.

And Don't be surprised that if they can't convict on Criminal charges that the families won't sue in Civil Court either.

Slipknot · 08-01-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

There ar no accidents only crashes that happen for a reason! If a felony had occurred during the chase or it was the reason for the chase then the felony-murder rule may apply.

I think it is a stretch though, regardless.

felony murder? how is a guy in a car being chased by police negligent for 2 copters colliding with each other? he didn't hit either one did he?

I just don't see it. Those choppers are responsible to now what is flying around them. Wussification of America, if a judge aloows this bull, that is all it is. I feel for the families of the victims but if the news didn't sensationalize this stuff it wouldn't happen either, let them sue the news stations.

you are right, it's a stretch

BigFish · 08-01-2007, 12:37 PM

Civil suit??? Cripes.....like that will ever happen! Monkeys will fly out of my butt before any charges or civil suits result from this copter crash against the idiot who was in the chase!

The Dad Fisherman · 08-01-2007, 01:00 PM

I'm not saying I agree with it........But Frivolous lawsuits and trumped up charges aren't exactly new you know.

Look at that St. Louis Pitcher who got killed recently. He was drunk and smashed his car into a tow truck.....his family is suing the guy who broke down because he caused the tow truck to be "In the Way".....So make room for those monkeys because they may be sprouting wings

fishbones · 08-01-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I'm not saying I agree with it........But Frivolous lawsuits and trumped up charges aren't exactly new you know.

Look at that St. Louis Pitcher who got killed recently. He was drunk and smashed his car into a tow truck.....his family is suing the guy who broke down because he caused the tow truck to be "In the Way".....So make room for those monkeys because they may be sprouting wings

I was going to bring that up. His father wanted to sue everyone from the bartender who served him, the bar owner, the cell phone company (I kid you not - he was on the phone when he crashed), the tow truck driver and the woman who was broken down. Recently, he dropped the suit. He probably came to his senses and realized that it was his son's fault. Unfortunately, we live in a litigious world where it is always someone's fault and the person who feels like they were wronged expects to get money for their "pain and suffering". What a bunch of lazy pieces of feces we are surrounded by.

BigFish · 08-01-2007, 03:36 PM

By the time that case is about done......his family will realize what a stupid SOB their son was and that maybe, just maybe......it was his fault and his fault alone! People in this country need to start taking responsibility for their own actions......and if they can't, then the friggin courts need to make them see the light!!!! Seems you can't breath, piss or crap without someone wanting to sue you these days!!!!