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08-05-2007, 01:13 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Interesting comment. I, too, never did much with that plug (whereas the danny/BM darter was very productive). Probably just how and where I fished (a shallow outflow with a hard cross sweep), but it does point out that as a class there are some substantial differences between darters.
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08-05-2007, 01:22 PM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
Posts: 544
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SS darter
Of all the darters I have used over the years I have found the SS to be very consistent in action but my all time favorite is the 2 1/2 oz. darter by Gibbs. Unfortunatly it has srcrew eyes but "swims" well right out of the package. I also change the belly on this one to a 4/0 VMC with a sparse bucktail single rear hook. Both are good in storm seas.
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08-05-2007, 04:29 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Interesting comment. I, too, never did much with that plug (whereas the danny/BM darter was very productive). Probably just how and where I fished (a shallow outflow with a hard cross sweep), but it does point out that as a class there are some substantial differences between darters.
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I fish a spot that has those exact characteristics. I've done well with a 2 oz. tattoo darter here but it's a little rocky on the bottom and that darter gets pretty deep. I just get nervous about rendering a $20 plugs useless after a trip or two. It digs into the ground big time. I've read that the ss darter is popular for montauk because it doesn't run too deep. Also, the plastic is alot more durable.
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08-05-2007, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,709
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Interesting comment. I, too, never did much with that plug (whereas the danny/BM darter was very productive). Probably just how and where I fished (a shallow outflow with a hard cross sweep), but it does point out that as a class there are some substantial differences between darters.
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metal lips are much better for doing sweeps and darters are much better for retrieving agianst fast moving water.. or at least thats what i have found over time.
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08-05-2007, 07:13 PM
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I Had A BLAST!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: I'm from Manhattan, Live in CT., but my heart is in SoCo!
Posts: 1,132
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Also, when I retrieve the darters, I do a couple of cranks, stop, lift the tip, crank, stop, etc. The lifting of the rod tip, the twitching if you waht to call it that, is important in the retrieve process.
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08-05-2007, 07:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NY
Posts: 1,073
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Most of the single hooks rigged it this way should be able to fold against the body and increase the casting distance.
Btw
This particular plug has a very strong casting properties right of the package.Steve is 100% right on a 4/0 hook .If you want a plug to dig in a strong current or rough seas you add a 4/0....but if you want to keep it up as high as possible ,go with cut 3/0
One of my favorite plugs.I'd say that more fish are landed on a darter on any given Montauk night than all other lure combined...btw....the needles,darters or metal lips take a ton of fish too but there is something about that zigzagging motion in a strong current
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