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08-07-2007, 05:33 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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A dozen....yeah great but all that means is they will rust up and fail on you when you need them most! Just spend the dough and you will never have to worry about them again! They are as important a tool as the rod and reel! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-07-2007, 05:43 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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i agree with the big fella. they're surely expensive- but i like not have to worry about them and they always perform what i ask them to do. i used to use to el cheapos but had failures at the wrong time. buy 'em once (hopefully) and if you fish 30x a season they'll cost you about $2 per for a few yrs- and you'll love 'em.
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08-07-2007, 05:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 115
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VS .Never failed me going on 3 years now. Light strong and no rust/oxidation. Worth every penny.
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AKA MDM
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08-07-2007, 06:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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I've got the larger Van Staals also, and nothing compares !
I also have 2 somewhat expensive pairs of Accurates that I'll sell for a good price, but their no where near as good as the VS !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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08-07-2007, 06:36 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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I'll put my 3 or 4 Ocean State Job lots per year against losing the VS once a season anytime 
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08-07-2007, 06:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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I would purchase the less expensive pliers. Thereafter if you feel that you want the high end pliers then go for it.
You'll probably come to the conclusion that the cheap pliers is the way to go for the reasons mentioned above.
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08-07-2007, 11:32 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
A dozen....yeah great but all that means is they will rust up and fail on you when you need them most! Just spend the dough and you will never have to worry about them again! They are as important a tool as the rod and reel! 
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Larry, you can't be serious? I spray my VanJobLot's with a touch of WD once a week. Never failed me yet.
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Why even try.........
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08-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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I got a gift certificate to Cabela's for Christmas and ended up getting the Ross Worldwide alumunium pliers. I love em'.
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08-07-2007, 12:21 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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vs pliers cant cut a hook, without the cutters shattering. = junk to me.
manleys cut a hook = good to me saw some on sale for 30$.
Most times I remove the hooks from fish I release with my hands.. yup sometimes I even touch the fish
.69 cent nail clippers on a piece of rope cut braid great!!! and for the price, I keep one in each of the plug bags I use and one in each dry top and one in my waders, and a few extras in the car. And if I remember to hit them with a drop of oil at any point in their lifespan they last longer....
I dont need vs pliers, I fish at night so I dont have anyone to POSE for
I actually splurged this year and bought 16$ rapala piers, I hit them with 3 in 1 red can a few drops whenever I think of it and they do fine. They crimp steel leader sleeves, they do split rings, they cut braid, they come with a sheath, and they remove a hook from a fish if I need them to just fine.
vs pilers maybe if I got them below wholesale or free. Then I'd be all over the internet spouting babble about how great a pair of pliers that cant cut a hook are....
The reels I can see the sense in the purchase the pliers not unless I get them wicked cheap or free. I'd like to see how many of the advocates for the vs pliers paid full price 
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08-07-2007, 06:35 PM
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You rang?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lowell
Posts: 946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
I'd like to see how many of the advocates for the vs pliers paid full price 
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 I would say nice things abut Hitler if he hooked me up with some free stuff too 
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08-07-2007, 06:38 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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I buy the cheapies because I don't have the $$ to shell out $100 for a pair of pliers. The cheapies do rust pretty quick though, I don't really take care of them though, I bought a $30 pair, forget the name, they are rusty as hell after a month of use.
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08-07-2007, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 842
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my vote is for manley's first, then maybe a pair of needles, such as the job lot's s/s or a pair of vs pliers as a backup pair. my manley's serve 2 main purposes, cutting any size hook and/or line/leaders and to cut hooks out of my hand or someone elses. i can cut thru 6x hooks all day and still be able to use them for cutting line. manley's may not be as sharp as a pair of vs pliers, but vs cutting jaws are not as strong to cut those heavier wire hooks. the only drawback i have found w/ manley's is that they dont have a long point like needle nose pliers, but that's not their true purpose anyhow. that's why i carry a cheaper backup pair just for that. manley's run maybe $30-35 at most tackle shops. that's cheaper than a pair of vs replacement cutters.
if all you want to do is cut line and want a pair of pliers to last you a long, long time buy a pair of vs pliers, a sheath, and a lanyard. i'm not really knocking them, they are nice, i just have not yet justified buying them when i use manley's.
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08-07-2007, 06:35 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Manleys will keep on cutting hooks for years, too.
Van Staals will cut a hook in a pinch--once 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-08-2007, 07:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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I have a pair of donamars and a pair of accurate offshore pliers as well as a bunch of $17 shimanos with a Ti coating. The ac curates are the best but the "worry" factor is real. The ac curates are the best plier I have used for rigging and keep it mostly at my bench but take it offshore when I go. (on a teather) The donmars cutters dull quickly and never really cut braid very well. They do not rust though. The $17 shimanos cut braid for two years. ( I store them in one of those lube-filled holdzit holders) They also are decent for de-hooking. They last a few years and if dropped in the drink it is not the end of the world. Drop a VS or other and you just ruined your day. Trust me you will be pissed when (not if but when)they splash.
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08-08-2007, 09:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Drop a VS or other and you just ruined your day. Trust me you will be pissed when (not if but when)they splash.
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There's a simple rule for expensive pliers. Never, EVER take them off the lanyard and you never lose them.
Live and die by it and you'll never have issues.
I'll even tempt fate and say I've never dropped pliers overboard, and never will.
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08-08-2007, 09:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Also, be careful with the Accurates. If my friend hasn't sent his back yet I'll take a picture.
Don't ever try and close a Siwash hook with them...
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08-07-2007, 02:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
Posts: 2,264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
A dozen....yeah great but all that means is they will rust up and fail on you when you need them most! Just spend the dough and you will never have to worry about them again! They are as important a tool as the rod and reel! 
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This is total BS... "rust up and fail on you". Dude, a quick hit of wd-40 when you suit up and a $3 pair of pliars and a $.99 pair of nail clippers will last well over a season. Ask my partner... no one takes worse care of their stuff than me. My equipment goes from my side, to the trunk of my car... NEVER rinsed. I am on my third season with my pliars and second with my trusty nail clippers. removes hooks and cuts braid... no problem.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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08-07-2007, 03:19 PM
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end of the fence guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tiverton ri
Posts: 749
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buy what ever %$%$%$%$in pliers you like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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boat fish dont count
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08-07-2007, 03:31 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snake slinger
buy what ever %$%$%$%$in pliers you like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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 That pretty much sums it up
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-07-2007, 03:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: in a structure with a roof
Posts: 6,049
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I like the little plastic ones that come with kids work bench toys . cheap and never rust . you know the ones also has the plastic claw hammer and screw driver .
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08-07-2007, 03:50 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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if you have a gift certificate, just buy the pliers, you won't regret it.
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08-07-2007, 04:01 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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I was using Sargent's until last week. Left 'em on a rocky beach somewhere hard to get while rerigging. Had used 'em about 15-20 years. They were pretty beat, and could only gnaw at braid, but it was a painful loss. Manley's aren't the same. Good old tools become your friends.
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