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Old 08-24-2007, 04:13 PM   #1
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A conviction is a conviction--regardless whether a jury finds a defendant guilty, whether a judge finds him guilty after waiver of a jury trial, or whether the defendant convicts himself with his own words in a guilty plea. There is no such thing as a "no contest" plea or an "admission to sufficient facts" in Federal court.

The Federal sentencing guidelines were supposedly designed to bring uniformity and eliminate much of a judge's sentencing discretion which often resulted in a great disparity in sentences imposed for the same crime by different judges, and in a way, to eliminate the so-called "trial penalty" some judges would slam onto a sentence for "wasting their time" by insisting on a trial. There is a range of minimium and maximum terms set forth, which a judge is pretty much going to choose from. He has to justify a so-called "downward departure"--ie a sentence less than the minimum called for in the guidelines--in writing, and unless it is an agreed upon departure, the Government can appeal it. Federal courts don't have suspended sentences, either. You serve 85% of the sentence actually imposed. If there is such a thing as community service in Federal sentencing, it's reserved for the most trivial federal misdemeanors, or imposed as something to be performed after service of the prison sentence.

Don't think that the run of the mill Massachusetts District Court dispositions that you read in the court report section of your local paper reflect what happens in a Federal District Court It's a different ballgame, with professional, and often career, prosecutors, smarter and more qualified (and often tougher) judges, with rules of evidence designed to facilitate convicting people, and where the Government rarely loses.

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Old 08-25-2007, 02:25 PM   #2
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The Federal Judge he is going before is known to give out stiff penalties .

In addition i read last week that Virginia may prosecute him on state charges that would not be double jeopardy to the Fed charges.
Article said state charges ,if convicted ,could call for upto 8-10 years.

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Old 08-25-2007, 06:00 PM   #3
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I'll betcha.....he does not serve more than 6 months!

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:31 PM   #4
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What you wanna bet?

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Old 08-25-2007, 06:56 PM   #5
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Nothing Mike....I am just gonna gloat "I told you so" when the sentence is handed down!!

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Old 08-25-2007, 08:21 PM   #6
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OK..LOL..We shall shall see...I hope he does 18 months and suspended for life from football

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Old 08-26-2007, 11:08 AM   #7
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Hi, my name is Michelle, he says to his new cellmate

The word is Vick is going to be sent to jail immediately, tomorrow, and go through evaluation. He will then be brought back before the same judge and receive his sentence. The state is going to tuck it up his breezer and charge him also. His new position in the NFL in the Fall of 09 will be WIDE RECEIVER, not quarterback.

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