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Old 09-12-2007, 07:34 PM   #1
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As the Raiders saying used to go back in the 70s
"If you aint cheating, you aint trying"

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:04 PM   #2
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As the Raiders saying used to go back in the 70s
"If you aint cheating, you aint trying"
LOL. Ray Guy almost made it to Canton punting a ball partially filled with helium--or so rumor has it

And the Snake's classic "forward lateral", uh, I mean "fumble" into the end zone for Casper to recover

Freddie "Doctor Stickum" Bilitnekoff.

Those were the days

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:11 PM   #3
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And let's not forget Lester Hayes, draped all over the receivers to 15 yards down field.... I bet the Raiders are directly responsible for more rule changes than any other three teams.

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Old 09-12-2007, 09:47 PM   #4
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And let's not forget Lester Hayes, draped all over the receivers to 15 yards down field.... I bet the Raiders are directly responsible for more rule changes than any other three teams.
Yup--but I loved watching them back then. It seemed like they were always the late doubleheader game.

Raiders vs Chiefs--always a blood war.

All of the guys I mentioned were great players. Stabler belongs in Canton. He was Elway before there was an Elway--master of the two-minute drill. Helium or not, Guy was the best punter ever.

Did Hayes and Haynes ever play in the same defensive backfield?

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Old 09-13-2007, 06:21 AM   #5
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Yup--but I loved watching them back then. It seemed like they were always the late doubleheader game.

Raiders vs Chiefs--always a blood war.

All of the guys I mentioned were great players. Stabler belongs in Canton. He was Elway before there was an Elway--master of the two-minute drill. Helium or not, Guy was the best punter ever.

Did Hayes and Haynes ever play in the same defensive backfield?

Stabler Should be in the hall of fame! If he were playing in todays west coast system , he would be one of the greatest ever, but they played throw deep/ power running back then, and when you throw deep all of the time you will throw ints as he did, keeping him out!
Guy was not only one of the greatest punters ever, he was their 3rd string quarterback most years with Lamonica & Stabler, then Plunkett..
but Guy had the best arn (by far) of all of them! just ask John Madden
They were the starting corners in super bowl 18, maybe the greatest starting pair of corners ever!

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Old 09-13-2007, 09:41 AM   #6
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Bill Simms Page2 on espn has a good article on the evil bill belichick, and they bring up these points -




*Hey, remember a couple years ago when the Steelers accused the Colts of piping in crowd noise at the RCA Dome?

*Remember when the Broncos broke salary-cap rules in order to build the 1997-98 championship team?

*Remember when Jim Haslett admitted to using steroids when he was playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers during their dynasty years of the '70s?

*Remember when Herm Edwards admitted to breaking NFL rules by using Stick-Um even after it was banned in 1980?

*And remember when Lawrence Taylor said he used to send hookers up to the hotel rooms of opposing running backs while he sat at home doing blow? I mean, are we taking away the '86 Giants' Super Bowl championship too? Come on, already. This stuff happens.
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Stabler Should be in the hall of fame! If he were playing in todays west coast system , he would be one of the greatest ever, but they played throw deep/ power running back then, and when you throw deep all of the time you will throw ints as he did, keeping him out!
Someone once asked Bear Bryant who was the best QB he ever coached, expecting to hear that it was another guy who wore #12.

Bryant replied, "Kenny Stabler was the best QB I ever coached" without a second's hestitation.

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$500K and a 1st and 3rd draft pick in 2008

"coach Bill Belichick was fined the NFL maximum of $500,000 Thursday and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000 for spying on an opponent's defensive signals.

The commissioner also ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice if it reaches the playoffs and second- and third-round picks if it doesn't."


I think we're going to make it just fine, now I hope the best for San Fran this year
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