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09-22-2007, 05:09 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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First thing I would do is make sure you aren't fishing "wrong" for the big stuff amidst the fish you have in front of you. If you aren't throwing an eel, you may be guilty of being "wrong".
One time on the back we were catching a lot of 15-25# fish on live eels, and one of the new yorkers came down with rigged eels. He proceeded to cull a number of 30# plus fish right next to us while we took nothing over 25#.
Hardly coincidence as I've seen the rigged eels take the largest fish in the school many times.
Take home lesson is make sure you're fishing the right way before you leave fish to find fish.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2007, 08:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
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Why would rigged eels cull out the larger fish???
Last edited by cheferson; 09-22-2007 at 08:28 AM..
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09-22-2007, 09:33 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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I only leave fish to find more privacy  |
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09-22-2007, 01:42 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheferson
Why would rigged eels cull out the larger fish???
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They cast further and get deeper more quickly, which is sometimes the difference between large and larger. You can cover a lot of water efficiently also. Some guys like to make real large(24") riggies too, which are good for real big fish.
The point I failed to make was if you were going dry with plugs or just catching smaller stuff that you should put an eel on before going to another spot.
I will be at that place again tonight, save some room for me.  |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2007, 01:47 PM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
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Backbeach is right on!
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09-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
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If your fishing the right spot as in a spot that holds large fish from time to time then don't leave the small fish are in there for a reason the same reason that might bring in a larger fish the spot I'v been at is holding smaller fish in tight and larger fish are out further.
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09-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
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in my previous reply I was assuming this is something that has gone on for days and that you've thrown everything you can think of at them to cull out a bigger fish. If I came on to fish like that one night, I wouldn't leave. It would be after 3 or 4 nights of similar action that I would think about leaving.
Backbeach - did anyone try a rubbercore sinker with a live eel in the situation you described by anychance, just curious if that would have taken some of the rigged eel advantage away. Also, were the riggies fished slow or quick. Just curious. I've gotta do up some rigged eels this winter and play around with them. I keep saying I'm gonna do it but just never do.
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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09-22-2007, 02:06 PM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
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A rubbercore sinker works well on a live eel at times in deep water - current situations for example, but a rigged eel is a different and special animal. Fish it slow to moderate pumping and even sweeping your rod as you reel. The rigged eel sinks like a stone and can be effectively fished in deep, rough and moving water unlike a live snake.
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09-23-2007, 05:17 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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The rubbercore helps get a live eel down quick, and I frequently fish them that way. One problem with live eels and rubber cores is that they still don't cast that well into the wind compared to the rigged.
On one of the nights I am referring to, the wind turned and started blowing onshore, which made it difficult to keep a live eel out there.The guys with the rigged were bombing the things out there and were able to stay in the strike zone longer than we were.Our live eels were winding up at our feet after just a few seconds. Still, I've seen a lot of nights when the rigged eels culled out the jumbo fish regardless of the weather. Al B. has a lot of stories like that. I knew his partner John pretty well and witnessed a lot of damage done with the rigged eels through watching John. I still primarily fish the live ones though. When I say rigged eels I mean the type with 2 big siwash hooks sewn into them, not the ones with a wobble head.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
First thing I would do is make sure you aren't fishing "wrong" for the big stuff amidst the fish you have in front of you. If you aren't throwing an eel, you may be guilty of being "wrong".
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Very, Very, True - In my opinion. |
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09-23-2007, 07:24 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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I have left fish and been bit on the arse for it .. Over the course of time the fish got larger and alot of people got some nice fish, but I was off some where eles on my skunk quest .. stick with them ,, go thru your bag .. try some larger baits..try some deeper baits ,, get under the schoolies .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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09-24-2007, 02:16 AM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Do I leave fish to find fish 
Sometimes it seems like the right thing to do 
Saturday was one
It was the wrong thing to do 
I will do it again when I once again overthink things and go to find the skunk  |
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