Fall Run, Late October & A Full Moon

[eelman]

Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

C'mon Bill... lighten up on the spot talk.

No, you lighten up, I can suggest anything I want, this spot stuff is still going on?? gimmie a break...Halloween, gooseberry ...equels Large bass..

My best fall surf fishing in rhody was always At napatree the first two weeks of November, pay particular attenton around the 8th to 12th of the month..It should be great this year with a new moon and falling water..Its especially good after a southeast blow that goes northwest...Early in November I have cleaned house at Central beach, huge fish but the conditions have to be right..its only suggestions from past experiances

[DZ]

Ah!, migration talk. When’s it going to happen? Where are they coming from? What effect will the moon have? Are they Hudson River bass, Chesapeake bass, Thames River bass? (Last time I asked a bass where it came from it didn’t answer me and those of you who know me know I talk to them a lot – many times they’re the only company I want). Much speculation here – what you have is lot’s of “theories”, speculation or guesses which have been passed on for generations through gossip on the beach, books, and now the internet. (Another example would be bass “stunning” prey with a whack of their tail - how many times have I heard that one.) There is no concrete scientific evidence on "specific" migration routes. One theory is the fish go up the coast or down the coast because that is how we see schools of fish actively feeding on the beach. Another theory is that they “come in” to the beach rather than follow the coastline. Only the bass “know”.

I’ve also wondered about these questions – I even did some research on ALS tag returns to see if I could find out where bass come from and where they go. No pattern at all. Some Hudson River fish go to Maine, and some go to Jersey. Some Chesapeake fish are caught in the Hudson River. Don’t overanalyze this topic – just get out and cast. One thing is almost for sure – you’ll find them where their food is.
DZ

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by DZ

Ah!, migration talk. When’s it going to happen? Where are they coming from? What effect will the moon have? Are they Hudson River bass, Chesapeake bass, Thames River bass? (Last time I asked a bass where it came from it didn’t answer me and those of you who know me know I talk to them a lot – many times they’re the only company I want). Much speculation here – what you have is lot’s of “theories”, speculation or guesses which have been passed on for generations through gossip on the beach, books, and now the internet. (Another example would be bass “stunning” prey with a whack of their tail - how many times have I heard that one.) There is no concrete scientific evidence on "specific" migration routes. One theory is the fish go up the coast or down the coast because that is how we see schools of fish actively feeding on the beach. Another theory is that they “come in” to the beach rather than follow the coastline. Only the bass “know”.

I’ve also wondered about these questions – I even did some research on ALS tag returns to see if I could find out where bass come from and where they go. No pattern at all. Some Hudson River fish go to Maine, and some go to Jersey. Some Chesapeake fish are caught in the Hudson River. Don’t overanalyze this topic – just get out and cast. One thing is almost for sure – you’ll find them where their food is.
DZ

Well said DZ...
Glad I'm not the only one who talks to the fish! Even when I'm not alone (ask JoeP). Bad habit, telling them calm down like they are puppies

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

No, you lighten up, I can suggest anything I want, this spot stuff is still going on?? gimmie a break...Halloween, gooseberry ...equels Large bass..

My best fall surf fishing in rhody was always At napatree the first two weeks of November, pay particular attenton around the 8th to 12th of the month..It should be great this year with a new moon and falling water..Its especially good after a southeast blow that goes northwest...Early in November I have cleaned house at Central beach, huge fish but the conditions have to be right..its only suggestions from past experiances

nice maturity level...

[eelman]

Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

nice maturity level...

Oh Man....whatever


Anyone who wants the inside scoop on any fall hotspot in rhody can send me a Pm and I will help you out all I can...

This stuff is getting crazy

AQcually email is better drummer1@cox.net

[JFigliuolo]

taken to PM...

[eelman]

Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..but more than a few things happened this year that puts things in perspective..you all know what they are...life is to short..I want to see people succed..I do not have a son or anyone else to pass along what I have learned in the surf to...I also realize that the reason most wont tell you is that they want to remain "on top" I was there at one point also, I know, its not that giving up the spot in and of itself is the problem...the truth is the fear that someone elses eel will in that water will land bigger and better than you...it happens, its competition all the way....there is a point to the crowd factor but still, when someone asks me nicely now I tell them, want to se the catch a nice fish...it comes with age I guess, the loss of friends, the maturity to realize its only a fish and yes to be honest a change I have made from surf to boat, I learned alot in the surf, if I can help a young guy who has the stamina and will power to stomp the suds all night...I dont mind pointing them in the right direction...

And I have done the same thiong in the boat also...But whats funny is that if you know where I fished in the surf then you know where I am boat fishing , same places just from the other side....Its only a fish...I have had my share without a doubt...after a 50 and a 60 this year..I am blesed (or cursed).I just dont care anymore and I dont need to...I am not "hunting" anything anymore, just fishing for the pure love of the sport.

[piemma]

Well said Bill. I didn't see anything in your posts that constituted a "spot burn". The way the Fall run has gone, it's all conjecture anyway. DZ, summed it up. "The fish will be where the food is".

[bart]

if you still fished the surf you wouldn't be so inclined to hand out info. if i recall correctly the last time you got into fish at one of said spots in Nov. you took pics, posted them online thinking no one would recognize the spot, then got all pissy when 10 trucks were in the lot before you got there. so don't say you want people to be successful....

and you obviously don't have any sympathy for the guys that regularly fish those spots. i'm sure they want a whole new group of guys heading out there? if you still fished in your old haunts and someone said spot X cleans up after an easterly blow and to concentrate their efforts there for the next 2 weeks, you wouldn't be too happy.....

[bloocrab]

.....I know, I know.....but I don't want to start another "SPOT" thread.

I just wanted to share my thoughts with Mr. Bill,,, it's not directed at anyone but everyone.

You know, I never really chime in on spot talk......but IMHO - - Spots should be discussed with FRIENDS, not a community on the internet, no matter who you are or who you think you are, I'm against it 100%.

Sure /// you want to teach somebody technique/practices/theories/anything fishing related other than spots....sure///TELL ALL...but spots I don't know , just because someone is "reborn" doesn't mean they should blow things up for others who still feel spots are shared with friends//NOT keyboard communities. And I'm NOT saying you're blowing things up Mr. Bill, you weren't too specific but CHIT happens, and you know that - - How many people read these posts and how many people & types of people does it take to ruin a spot ??? You NEVER know who you're sharing with on the internet....remember that.

How many guys can the short wall support? OK, scenario...I hit them good there last night, I post about it,,,, 15 guys out of 100 that read the post go there the very next night......how great is that? I'm not feeding people who want to learn, I'm actually feeding people who are too lazy to search.....why don't people generalize??? ie: The Short Wall = Point Judith

Obviously because the fish were at the short wall last night DOESN'T mean they're going to be there the next night.......but they're probably still in the Point Judith area so you're not misleading anyone...but you're also NOT pointing to a certain rock.

Sure, I love to fish...almost as much as I love to catch. But I'm happy just fishing......I realize more and more that when I'm alone and into heavy action, lately.... I find myself wishing a fishing FRIEND was with me, someone to share in the fun...so sharing something like a spot with a friend (someone who'd do it for you) is GREAT!! Sharing spots with the internet community is NOT teaching anything.....it's more like a virtual guide. Try here first, here second, then follow the tide here next ///etc/etc/etc.../????Where's the gain in that? That's just feeding slackers in my opinion.

Call me selfish.....but when me and Goose or Milo or anyone else I consider a FRIEND, go fishing......I'd prefer it that we were the only ones at that spot.........fish or no fish//it's always a good time/with good company. Posting spots on the internet doesn't serve any purpose other than ??? What??? ?What is the reason for posting spots?? Fish swim///and now fish are on bait/forget resident fish/find the bait = find the fish.....there's your spot of the week.

Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..

The problem with that is you only know that "point" when it's too late.

Again, this ain't my site...I'm a member at will, I'm just sharing my thoughts /// not looking for enemies, Lord knows I have enough of them already. ...and Mr. Bill, this isn't directed at you so don't take it personally....you and anyone else can do anything they want on here, post spots/post fish/whatever....just sharing my thoughts