Fall Run, Late October & A Full Moon

[bart]

don't imply that i've ever spoken a word to you, let alone sent you an email asking where the fish are. lets make that crystal clear.

the fact is, i know where big fish are being caught. up here in MA, eastern RI, etc. but i don't go to those areas because they aren't my spots, i don't feel right about it. (not always a 2 way street though). its an unwritten law that you're supposed to follow, like not burning spots.

just because you don't fish those spots anymore doesn't give you the right to kill them for everyone else still battling the elements looking for one "rat 30." you'd think someone who's been in the game as long as you would understand this...

BTW i find it funny you would call a 30 a rat when in the past you'd be the first to post a pic of anything over 20lbs from the surf....

[eelman]

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

well, to be fair, he did mention one area that is somewhat difficult to access without going through private property.

at least edit that one out, lest a bunch of folk crowd the place and cause the locals to start towing angler's cars.

i'm not jumping on #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, i enjoy his posts, i'm just trying to watch out for us all.

uhhhhhh Where have you been, that place has been overun for years???????????????

[eelman]

Originally Posted by bart

don't imply that i've ever spoken a word to you, let alone sent you an email asking where the fish are. lets make that crystal clear.

the fact is, i know where big fish are being caught. up here in MA, eastern RI, etc. but i don't go to those areas because they aren't my spots, i don't feel right about it. (not always a 2 way street though). its an unwritten law that you're supposed to follow, like not burning spots.

just because you don't fish those spots anymore doesn't give you the right to kill them for everyone else still battling the elements looking for one "rat 30." you'd think someone who's been in the game as long as you would understand this...

BTW i find it funny you would call a 30 a rat when in the past you'd be the first to post a pic of anything over 20lbs from the surf....

ya true until this spring when I had 12 30lbers in a row, Jim and I were getting tired of catching fish that size...and dont tell me how or what to feel...I have certainly paid my Surf dues more than anyboday, rain, snow, wind, ice, high surf, miles and miles of walking and almost divorced..I understand everything perfectly...I have learned even before I baught a boat that "batteling the elements" is for fools, there is no need to do that exept maybe in the late fall....plenty of fish are caught on the nice nights, the smart fisherman is in bed on those he man nights, resting up because he knows better........

[Back Beach]

[QUOTE=luds48;534162] Thought we were just busting balls. [QUOTE]


We are. I'll throw in a smiley .

[luds]

[QUOTE=Back Beach;534169][QUOTE=luds48;534162] Thought we were just busting balls.

We are. I'll throw in a smiley .

Thanks

[JFigliuolo]

[QUOTE=bart;534165]don't imply that i've ever spoken a word to you, let alone sent you an email asking where the fish are. lets make that crystal clear....

QUOTE]

Please put me in that camp also. I must confess, though once, I believe last summer, I asked 2 people if they could give me any intel on an easy to fish spot that was producing ANYTHING, as I was planning on taking out my wife who was sick. She loves to fish, but had been very sick w/Lyme and unable to get out at all for over a year. So for her, I swallowed my pride. Bill was one of those people. We have exchanged emails about various other fishing related topics he was very helpfull.

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

uhhhhhh Where have you been, that place has been overun for years???????????????

may be true, but it would be terrible if the locals got fed up and hired a tow-truck operator if one parked there. why tempt fate?

[Rockport24]

in my opinion, all the good spots are overrun eventually, however, go in the deep night and you won't find anybody. I fish a lot of spots at night that get very crowded during the day as soon as the sun rises.
the key, again in my opinion, is knowing how and when and this is what the "sharpies" know. Sure there are secret "pet" spots that people like to keep to themselves, but I think a lot of people have this sense that there are spots out there where 30 pounders are jumping onto the shore and it's easy to catch them. I just don't think that is true. It's a right place, right time, kind of thing and there will always be people out there that have put in the time enought to know those right places and right times.

[cheferson]

Cant we all just get along???

[bart]

you just made my point. you think people who HAVE learned said spots want someone telling the world how to fish them?

[Squibby17]

Reading this thread makes me have second thoughts about asking for advice when I go to Rhody for the first time next weekend by myself.

I realized the other day I've never caught a striper outside of massachusetts. I guess asking for a few tips might get me in some trouble

[Back Beach]

WTF is this thread about anyways? I've wasted precious time off today monitoring and participating in this dog's breakfast of a thread. I need some closure before I head out tonight.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

WTF is this thread about anyways? I've wasted precious time off today monitoring and participating in this dog's breakfast of a thread. I need some closure before I head out tonight.

Fun isnt it mike

Have fun tonight in your "secret" spot

[Rockport24]

to tell you the truth, I like those articles that tell you "how" to fish spots, not because of their spot-burning qualities, but because they help you learn what to look out for. I think a lot of surfcasters, at least around my parts, 1) don't fish at night and 2) don't pay attention to all the variables. most "spot" or "report" chasers are just looking for new spots and once they get skunked a couple of times, they move on. There are NO MAGIC SPOTS!! If there were, word would get out and everybody would just be there all the time.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Squibby17

Reading this thread makes me have second thoughts about asking for advice when I go to Rhody for the first time next weekend by myself.

I realized the other day I've never caught a striper outside of massachusetts. I guess asking for a few tips might get me in some trouble

you can ask me I will tell ya!

[bart]

lets do an experiment. i'll post where BB is getting all these 20-40lb fish and lets see who shows up. you game Mike?

[RIJIMMY]

[QUOTE=luds48;534170][QUOTE=Back Beach;534169]

Originally Posted by luds48

Thought we were just busting balls.

Thanks

that made my day! too funny.

I love these spot threads! We've been due for some time.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by bart

lets do an experiment. i'll post where BB is getting all these 20-40lb fish and lets see who shows up. you game Mike?

no need to experiment - 10000 people will show up.

Again - spot vs. report

spot - good
report - bad

[MarshCappa]

This thread has been interesting to say the least. In my humble attempt to get it back on track it has inspired me to keep the fishing going this fall. I have a meeting in Hyannis in the morning and Falmouth at 2pm. I plan on hitting a few places in Falmouth before my meeting and thanks to #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s previous experiences it will focus my efforts on a couple of places. This fall run started great for me in my skiff on Dux bay but I've been rock hopping recently and reminded how much harder it is from shore. I hope to be rewarded Friday though with some new places in an area I'm learning more and more about.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by bart

lets do an experiment. i'll post where BB is getting all these 20-40lb fish and lets see who shows up. you game Mike?

No problem at all. We're all friends here.

I might have lied to everyone about where though.

[bart]

Bass River
Incoming
Drifting sea robin chunks

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by bart

Bass River
Incoming
Drifting sea robin chunks

WTF BART! Watch your back, brother. I know where you reside.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I have learned even before I baught a boat that "batteling the elements" is for fools, there is no need to do that exept maybe in the late fall....plenty of fish are caught on the nice nights, the smart fisherman is in bed on those he man nights, resting up because he knows better........

No truer words spoken,,,,
Surf fishing is for guys who can't afford boats......

[eelman]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

No truer words spoken,,,,
Surf fishing is for guys who can't afford boats......

Good thing we got ours when we did!

"whats up................Bud"

[eelman]

HAVE A NICE DAY


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[DZ]

Chasing reports is indeed a problem and I know what you mean having chased my fair share when I was much younger. But to say that spots can’t be burned is a mistake. What I failed to convey in my last post is I’ve learned first hand from mistakes I made and I have concrete numbers to prove my point. Back 10 years ago or so I wrote an article about a “Surf Fishing Parking Permit” that my local community instituted to allow surf fishermen parking access in areas where parking was normally not permitted. Without getting into details here - my intent was to show other surfcasting communities how to deal with potential parking problems in their own areas.
To make a long story short the city I live in issued “Triple” the amount of permits in one season after my article was published – three years later the number issued was 239 - a majority were issued to out of town fishermen. I had people calling me from all over wanting to know more about the permit – these guys were not chasing a “fish report” but were looking for a new place to cast.
The article back-fired big time and the city fathers let me know about it. I screwed-up. So I know first hand how a “where to” article, however inadvertent, can have an effect on location.
Put that kind of info on a website and it goes on and on forever and a simple goggle search will find it.

One thing about these spot burn posts - it sure gets people reading these boards.
John must love it.
DZ

[riverrat2]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I have learned even before I baught a boat that "batteling the elements" is for fools, there is no need to do that exept maybe in the late fall....plenty of fish are caught on the nice nights, the smart fisherman is in bed on those he man nights, resting up because he knows better........

This is so true, too many people read all these articles and stories online that during a giant noreaster is when they will catch giant fish. I completly disagree and believe the exact opposite. Giant surf doesn't "push"(if i here that one more time I am going to puke) fish into the beach neither does a 10knt onshore breeze. A foot under water it is the same as it is during a flat ass calm night. How many people here have actually cought fish over 35# consistently during a huge blow????

[eelman]

Originally Posted by DZ

Chasing reports is indeed a problem and I know what you mean having chased my fair share when I was much younger. But to say that spots can’t be burned is a mistake. What I failed to convey in my last post is I’ve learned first hand from mistakes I made and I have concrete numbers to prove my point. Back 10 years ago or so I wrote an article about a “Surf Fishing Parking Permit” that my local community instituted to allow surf fishermen parking access in areas where parking was normally not permitted. Without getting into details here - my intent was to show other surfcasting communities how to deal with potential parking problems in their own areas.
To make a long story short the city I live in issued “Triple” the amount of permits in one season after my article was published – three years later the number issued was 239 - a majority were issued to out of town fishermen. I had people calling me from all over wanting to know more about the permit – these guys were not chasing a “fish report” but were looking for a new place to cast.
The article back-fired big time and the city fathers let me know about it. I screwed-up. So I know first hand how a “where to” article, however inadvertent, can have an effect on location.
Put that kind of info on a website and it goes on and on forever and a simple goggle search will find it.

One thing about these spot burn posts - it sure gets people reading these boards.
John must love it.
DZ

No dennis, its me..I am the lightning rod...

But seriously, its talked about like damn military exercise??? Give me a break

[eelman]

Originally Posted by riverrat2

This is so true, too many people read all these articles and stories online that during a giant noreaster is when they will catch giant fish. I completly disagree and believe the exact opposite. Giant surf doesn't "push"(if i here that one more time I am going to puke) fish into the beach neither does a 10knt onshore breeze. A foot under water it is the same as it is during a flat ass calm night. How many people here have actually cought fish over 35# consistently during a huge blow????

your my new hero...a smart man!

[eelman]

btw .... Plugs....they dont work......