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I.d love to jump in /
there is no right or wrong answer ;;
the best way is to say nothing >>>>> years ago my partner had a saying >>ask me no questions >. I,ll tell ya no lies ;;
Spots .. this has been going on for ages / just now with the net / it fuels instant responces ;;
Some of the things I,ve seen & learned over the years .. you may choose to agree/ no not >. && in the cases of those that just throw stones & agree to disagee on what a few have to save >>>>>>>>>>>>> GFY
#^^^^^^& ;;
Is nuts & gets carried away / can,t do two things @ once & is totally F $%^&*( up
also its true >> & he was told on & off the site .. don,t keep posting photo,s & rubbing it in >.especially to the guy that fished the last 5 nights & got the skunk ;; he wouldn,t listen / he came very close to losing friendships over that & bass . he actually pleaded with me to MAKE tTHINGS right with a certain fisherman //
rather late /but he finally learned not to stuff it in your face ;;
Hab,s sudden passing made alot of people better understand my saying >.ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE ::
I hadn,r read this thread because the heading .. meant & means nothing to me // But after the first few post & a couple of fun posts /it comes down to the same old spot %$%$%$%$ //
Now your thinking WTF / Clammer fishes from a boat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was not always that way ;; I still enjoy fishing from shore but I physically can,t handle the effort / & I appaurd [sp] the old timers that still do it :;
the youngins /WTF ..your young /do it now ;;
getting back to spots ; HTF can you even thing of getting on someones case / when it is so general ;; & I know that [Been There] just throwing out well kmown places seems harmless >. Put the guy that is actually fishing that place @ the time @ is catching >. is pissed off ;;
If ya really wanna stop this stuff you can,t >>>>>>>>>>
I truly believe if you take a person from Great salt flats >>>> who has never even seen water :;
[1] give them access for a month to all the articles ever written about how & where on stripers ;;
[2] access to the how to & where to video,s
[3] internet access to all the sites that focus on stripers ;;
&&&&& I,m willing to bet he/she will be pretty successful .. not bad for a guy that never saw water /never mind bass ;;
[4} if ya really wanted to make it easy for him let him/her charter a guide or charter captain if by boat >> which he already has the eyes & ears of depth/fish finder & GPS .. WTF is a compass .. he hires the expert / lets say for 5 trips under different conditions >>>>>>>> now somewhere along the line he,s gonna be taken to spots .. &&& if its really tough // that expert :;99/100 will take the client to his ace in the whole ;;;
Its not just surf spots / even throug that,s what brings up the Flames on sites ;;
no you have any idea how many ::FISHERMAN } both boat & surf woulf be F#$%^&* with reading, writing & internet ;;
alot of the youngin have paids dues & will continue to do so >>>> but don,t try & b/s by saying I learned this & that myself :: internet / plug building , books ., etc
I wish some of you that are so hot about spots had better things to do >>>> like go on a boat && see what a zoo it can be ;; also weather conditions affect the boater just as much or more than the surf fisherman ;;
I,d love to see how many fisherman //boat WTF they would with no electronics ;
WTF is a compass ???? ranges WTF ?? ya cook on them ;;
I wish I could go back 40 years / if from surf /ya really had to know you s$%^&*
& if by boat / electronics where just becoming availble [sp]
so you better now how to use a compass /take ranges & we all had @ least one marker in our boats >. usually something so big noone thought anything of it / or so small that ya needed ranges to see it ;;
& yes we were all F $%^&*() in the fog >> we knew how to navigate to a particular area / but we couldn,t see out ranges
it was different /then info came by the guy in the bait shop // who knows if it was true // & back then there were alot more tournments for the average guy // & people would come & watch ;;
the newpapers always had photos of large being caught / && tournaments were followed like the world series /with daily updates ;;
Magazines .. i think were outdoor life & field & stream // Not much od a threat to the striper ad#^^^^& / maybe SWS .I can,t remember ;;
But everYone followed the articles in the newpaper
1st was lester Boyd .. who reported /but knew his stuff >> he had a double ended dory with the O/B in the middle / he smoked them with the C/C spinner & worm ;;
One day after he posted a article on the abundance of white perch in a river / I went up to him & asked him if he could keep it a little lower >. they were paying for my schooling >> he did ;;
then there STaff carroll / who fished with anyone who would take him >> but you could always see him with TONY-THE-BARBER >> every WEdnesday ;;
& then Dan head >. who had a boat of his own /but really relied on others for his reports & fish ;;
&& that brings us to Tom Meade / who writs now for the journal /but not in the manner of back then ;;;
Oh lets not forget Scully >> every friday the back page from the old record american out of Boston .. was full with locations & reports ;;
I just remembered about a place we use to fish hard from may to the middle of July :; I have never ever seen a article on this place to this day :: && I,m willing to bet If was $%^&* enough to take someone there >> I need help getting there /its from shore ;; that there wouldn,t be a soul around except me & the bass ;;
Lotta old stories ;;
we were smokin the bass commercially Years ago >> we all sold in Mass >> ie ::now a higher commercial quota in mass thanks to that ;;
we had a awesome day >> I can still remember the numBers & I had a copy of the check ;; we,ll we sold to spooner // well we found out that was mistake / he didn,t know where we were fishing /but kept asking everyone .if the had any idea where we were fishing >. his logic >. more guys more fish for him ;
well we hired A kid B/A are his initials >. he lived in someset ;; we would call him & n=meet him in the parking lot at the exit for ocean grove .. by the end of the seson everyone was trying to find & figure out where & who he was :: he couldn,t catch a fish in a hatchery ..
we paid him 10% back then & gas wasn,t a issue ;;
a couple more of I remember /
Paul bettercourt / goes by the baitman on the water >.
I know him as CooKo [sp] >. no one better on this earth when it comes to nowing whre /how & when to catch any kind of bait ;;
Well I saw him at the PFC club /half in the bag / mumbling /said hi & left / a couple of days later I went to peddle steamers && there he was same shape & condition >.. so I said WTF you doing / the fishing great ..money to be had:: he told me he couldn,t go >>. why paul >. joes in town for a month >. one of his brothers worked as a merchant marine ..so he,s off when back home ;; sooooooo I said > he said he but a F $%^&*() curse on me /can,t fish until he leaves :::
Another time there are three of us fishing commercially out of his boat >> we had fish 3-4 hours in the nite / when he descides the bait is tired /throws it overboard & heads to his dock >> he then tells us he can fill up with bait in 45 minutes ;; i was told to stay with the boat to nothing would disappear ;;One hour later they come back with F $%^&*( bait all over the plac e .. we now head back to were we before >. with fresh bait >even thru the bait he threw away . swam away >>>>>>> we were B/s ing [this is arounf 2 - 3 AM /and somehow I mentioned the $%^&*() can,t spell it / but its Portuguese for whitch woman / that she lived in the house next to my mother on the 2nd floor ;;
WELL / he went f #$%^&*( nuts / starting the motor before we could get the anchors in & went tear=assing to the dock .. never even secured the boat >. that was our job ..he had to go find her ;;
lastly >. One spring we were doing good on large up the river ;;
then he started having better days on a average than all of us ;; I called him about it &&&&& he said he couldn,t talk about it & to be at his house that evening [ALONE]
I go >> and we go out back /were presides to tell me he came up with the setup that was working well ;; great >.show me >>
Get this >. we had to wait to the coast was clear >..we went into his basement & he showed me his ]][[secret weapon ]]] WTF
he said he could let two go & I had to promise to tell noone but my partner ; I said thanks .I owe you one & start to walk up the cellar stairs ;;He graps me & says WTF you doing ??? I,m leaving ;; well you don,t have them hidden >.,yeah .noones here but you /me & your sister Tilly >> that,s it they had to be hidden from her >>>>>>> yet he would fish with her to have another rod in the boat ;;
the moral of this story is I,m F $%^&*( up /on meds / ya all worry about stupid %$%$%$%$ & same old >.old days ;
