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Old 10-29-2007, 12:13 PM   #1
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I just hope the Sox give Lowell what he wants, A-Rod plays dirty, and he's I can't stand that overconfident smug, just look at his hair. Lowell is the man, model athlete. He bought food for fans camped out in front of Fenway waiting for the few remaining post season tickets. Lowell is worth every penny. A-Rod maybe the better player, but Lowell's name carries weight (Florida anyone), he's a fan favorite and more importantly, he's consistent. A Rod is anything but clutch.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:21 PM   #2
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just look at his hair. .
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:29 PM   #3
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The smart move may be to move Youkilis to third and bring in a first baseman. There aren't many good third basemen available on the free agent market. Aaron Boone is, though

Menkeiwich is available and probably for a song. You could sign him for his glove and use him the way they used him in 2004. Then you could also try to sign a bopper for his bat, like a Hillenbrand or a Tony Clark, and still have $10 million in your pocket over what A-Rod would cost. Or you'd get those two for what re-signing Lowell would cost.

The sticking point with Lowell won't be the bucks---they Sox would be perfectly willing to commit to $25 million over two years. It'll be the years. Reportedly, Lowell wants $40-$48 million over 4 years. If the Yankees don't give it to him, chances are the Phillies will.

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Old 10-29-2007, 03:42 PM   #4
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Menkeiwich is available and probably for a song. You could sign him for his glove and use him the way they used him in 2004. Then you could also try to sign a bopper for his bat, like a Hillenbrand or a Tony Clark, and still have $10 million in your pocket over what A-Rod would cost. Or you'd get those two for what re-signing Lowell would cost.l.

Clark Sucked when he Played for us
Hillenbrand Whined when he played for us
And Menkeiwich took his ball and went home......

I think we should sign Lowell just so the Yank-mees don't get a quality replacement for A-Rod......

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Old 10-29-2007, 04:03 PM   #5
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Clark Sucked when he Played for us
Hillenbrand Whined when he played for us
And Menkeiwich took his ball and went home......

I think we should sign Lowell just so the Yank-mees don't get a quality replacement for A-Rod......
I think you should sign Lowell too. But the newest WS MVP also has a say in that, and it's his thoughts that count. I'm hearing he's pretty adamant on a 4 year deal and that the Sox might not be willing to commit for that long on a 33 year old guy coming off his career year. Remember, it was only two years ago that Lowell hit .236 with 8 HR and had something like 50 rbi while playing 150 games.

One thing to give you guys hope--I know his agent, Seth Levinson, from the days I practiced law in Brooklyn. Seth's a Mets fan

Unfortunately, find another good free agent third baseman--you'd have to look long and hard. If Lowell leaves--what's the solution? It's either a) get involved in the A-Rod courtship, b) trade for one (and that means giving up some young talent) or c) sign or trade for a first baseman. Choice c) might be your best option.

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Old 10-29-2007, 03:32 PM   #6
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I'm also in the Anti-Arod camp. I was against getting him back in 03.

• He isn't worth what he's asking for 30+ per year
• He has Purple Lips
• Slapped the ball
• Yelled during that pop up in Toronto
• He was making plenty of $ in Texas and whined his way out of there, Maybe its me but I don't understand how you can complain when you signed a contract for a quarter of a billion dollars.

If the don't get Lowell they should look at Carlos Pena @ 1st and move Youk to third. But I hope they can keep Lowell.

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Old 10-29-2007, 03:45 PM   #7
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He was making plenty of $ in Texas and whined his way out of there, Maybe its me but I don't understand how you can complain when you signed a contract for a quarter of a billion dollars.

If the don't get Lowell they should look at Carlos Pena @ 1st and move Youk to third. But I hope they can keep Lowell.
He whined his way out of Texas because he wanted a shot at a ring. He wasn't going to even come close in Texas

His post season numbers do suck. But----it wasn't his fault that Rivera blew two saves that would have closed the Sox out in 2004. It wasn't his fault that Steinbrenner threw big bucks at over the hill starters like Johnson and Clemens, and that Mussina turned into the second coming of Steve Blass in the post-season, or that they let Pettite have a slew of good years in Houston before bringing him back with his best years behind him. A-Rod didn't offer big bucks to pitchers like Jaret Wright or Carl Pavano. It's not his fault that the front office went ga-ga over steroid freak losers like Giambi and Sheffield and let proven winners like Tino Martinez and O'Neil opt out. The Yankees went from having the best clubhouse in the game in the late 90s to being a team of self-centered losers after 2001. The old joke was that the Sox reserved 25 tables for one, or hailed 25 separate cabs, after a game. That now is true of the Yankees.

You watch. Next year they'll be closer to 4th place than first. Torre kept that menagerie together. Now, all hell is going to break loose

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Old 10-30-2007, 10:34 AM   #8
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He whined his way out of Texas because he wanted a shot at a ring. He wasn't going to even come close in Texas
That's my point. He choose to leave Seattle which at the time was a very Competitive team. By signing a deal like that, it completely handcuff's a small market team like Texas. They were never going to be good with a contract like that on the payroll, If A-rod wanted his ring he never should have signed there in the first place.

This same thing happened with Vince Carter in Toronto. Sign's big deal team won't be good, and can't afford anyone else. Then he whines until he gets traded for .50 cents on the dollar

I blame the player, not the agent. You want your big contract and get it, than you suck it up. No one forced you to go to a bad team that was willing to over spend on you.

I honestly might denounce they sox if the sign A-rod. He's a classless, Greedy player that represents all that I don't like in the baseball

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Old 10-29-2007, 03:18 PM   #9
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I say he ends up with the Angels. Even though they need a third baseman,he's a natural SS..I'd love to see Cabrera back here,but not going to happen..
Cabrera was great when he was here.
I was told the Sox got rid of him because of his love of very young (16 or younger) girls.

LETS GO BRANDON
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