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Old 11-16-2007, 02:50 PM   #31
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Good points Mike P, some people just don't get it nor will they ever. Some people eventually do get it. It's just a matter of listening to a more educated surfcaster and actually doing something about it. In the end it comes down to having respect for the fish. I hate it when somebody kicks back a fish into the water, esp. a striped one.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:14 PM   #32
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man i am spoiled living here on the island... if theres more than 3 people at the spot im going to i move on...
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:57 PM   #33
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THE WHOLE BEACH WAS LIKE THAT IF YOU HAD A PASS YOU COULD GET AWAY FROM THE CROWD OR JUST WALK A LITTLE WAYS I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST TO LAZY ALL SCHOOLIES ANYWAY STILL FUN ON LIGHT TACKLE.SORRY ABOUT ALL CAPS I WAS HALF WAY THROUGH AND REALIZED IT AND WASN'T GOING TO RETYPE.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:22 PM   #34
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MikeP, that was so accurate it was painful to read.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:30 PM   #35
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I fished during a couple of these fiascoes. Couldn't deal so went elsewhere. There was a guy... maybe 45 yo, all geared up (Orvised and Beaned up) and he was just cranking in 15" fish and feeling really great about it and yelling to his buddies. When he finally got them unhooked, he'd drop them on the beach and kick or flip them back into or toward the water with his foot ... sometimes two foot lifts were required. I watched this for a couple of fish and then real loud I asked if thought he might be able to bend over and actually pick the fish up and carry them to to water. He said he would next time. What a sport. Maybe he didn't want to slime his waders. Idiot. I left.

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Old 11-16-2007, 05:31 PM   #36
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thats not right ....the shorts never have a chance..
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:05 PM   #37
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boy that looks like fun

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Old 11-16-2007, 07:05 PM   #38
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thats not right ....the shorts never have a chance..
Kind of like the shorties that you put on the other site?
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:16 AM   #39
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or the dink just sitting on the sand
I think someone is dragging it up the beach. There is line coming out of its mouth. Don't want to get the jeans wet.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:28 AM   #40
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man i am spoiled living here on the island... if theres more than 3 people at the spot im going to i move on...
wow!

and you think that is bad

try fishing the canal during the spring run on a breaking tide. oke:
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:21 AM   #41
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U know whats funny is we have the same thing going on right now in NJ.
Same size fish.U would be surprised how many times things run the concurrently.
Same type thing also.Every one with a fish pole comes out of the wood work.
Very dangerous.Humorous to watch..

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:28 AM   #42
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Cain't and woant fish under those types of condish's.

For the very same reasons that I won't fish The Ditch, PI Beach, SOCO Bways, and why 99.9% of my fishing is done from 0300 to first light at "Korkers Required" spots that usually follow at least a 1/4 mile trek..............................

Primarily, in my view, what is the thrill behind catching dinks? You are only risking damaging yer future COW, and possibly killing your grandson's Trophy. Sorry but, I MOVE when it's schoolies every cast and I don't seem to be raising the BIG mommas that may or may not be amongst the rats.

Secondly, I never will understand the pursuit of big or little fish with light tackle. What, is it some sort of machismo BS? "Hey look at me, I landed this '20# MONSTER' on 12# test and no shock leader!!". Translation: "Hey look at me, I'm the insecure idiot increasing the release mortality rate and bringing a fish close to exhaustion, that I'll prolly just toss back into the surf with no concern for its well being after." Mommalukes, and a definite scar on the face of recreational/pro fishing.

I'm not advocating bringing a sizeable fish in GREEN, just never was one for increasing the playing time in the perceived interest of the extended fight somehow making someone a "better" angler for doing so. The TRUE sportsman will, if not keeping, C&R in due time and send schoolie and trophy alike on their revived and no worse for the battle ways, imho.

Lastly, the solitude ~or a group of 4 to 5, max, feeshin' buddies~ is my idea of the quintessential Striper Coast experience. There is just somethin' that ties one into the historic past and the majestic present when settting-up on an above average sized Linesider whilest out upon that infrequent and hard earned perch. Whether she be fooled by plug, eel, chunk, tin, or jig the fooling of our elusive quarry and the finding of her maw is what calls me to the surf each night. And besting the BIG GURLS is what makes all the homework, the miles, and the moons ~ALL, well worth their while. Besides to me, the Hunt is just as much a part of the fight and equally as rewarding as the successful release of our vaunted prey.

Very tough for me to stomach the mistreatment of our beloved species and I'd prolly be the one screaming at the newbs running up and down the beach and properly releasing the stripers while dodging all the googanity. Never have been one for shoulder to shoulder "fishing", if you could call it that.

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Old 11-18-2007, 10:55 AM   #43
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I was at that fiasco, although on the other side of the bway. Went to the end of the jetty caught one rat, 14" and headed back to the truck. That kind of fishing is fun for me in the spring for about an hour. When im packing the steelhead rod, not a lot of fun with a 1208.

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Old 11-18-2007, 11:09 AM   #44
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Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god. you can see the fish next to the guy in the orange jackets head
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:41 AM   #45
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Situations like this are great for introducing newbies to the sport though, nothing like catching a few shorts on their first trip out to get them hooked. It seems like if somone gets the skunk on thier first time out, they never want to come back with me. If they catch "somthing" their first time out, it is much more likely they will want to come back out.

I really try to make sure my buddies hook up with somthing the first time I take them out, even though it usually means sacrificing my own cow hunting time, it is worth it if they get into it. Newbies always think "sneakers" when they think "fishing".
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:34 PM   #46
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I saw that brown- top clown too Bob & first laughed, then got sick!


Is he releasing a schoolie... or practicing for the next Olympics' Discuss throw competition?


But don't worry Bob, you will get your wish: I predict that unfortunate Bass is that guys' last for '07! I don't expect to see him throwing 3 oz. wood or Eels in the deep night anytime soon!
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:48 PM   #47
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Take a look at the guy in the Brown jacket...
is that a split finger fastball or cutter??
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:10 PM   #48
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Very tough for me to stomach the mistreatment of our beloved species and I'd prolly be the one screaming at the newbs running up and down the beach and properly releasing the stripers while dodging all the googanity. Never have been one for shoulder to shoulder "fishing", if you could call it that.
A few more guys like you can make all the difference,although you may want to keep the screaming to a minimumI find people very receptive and appreciative that i took a minute to help them out.Some of you "leveled","geared up" fashion consious elitists my want to give it a try
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:40 PM   #49
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Maybe the guy in the orange pissed him off so he was throwing the dink at his head thats what it looked like lolololololol.


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Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god. you can see the fish next to the guy in the orange jackets head
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:16 PM   #50
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Looks like a normal Monday morning in Joisey.

The guy in the brown sweater looks like he cast rod and all over the guy in fronts head.

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Old 11-18-2007, 09:38 PM   #51
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I did it bear foot in my shorts yesterday...
i did it naked yesturday,,, what r we talking about,,, how is the weather down there,,,

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Old 11-19-2007, 03:41 AM   #52
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A few more guys like you can make all the difference,although you may want to keep the screaming to a minimumI find people very receptive and appreciative that i took a minute to help them out.Some of you "leveled","geared up" fashion consious elitists my want to give it a try
Most of what I said in the paragraph you highlighted was tongue in cheek, bro.

I would attempt to approach the fish tossers/kickers, "I doan have to get my feet wet, do I", HACKS with some level of respect. Pretty hard to respect those who have no respect for themslves as witnessed by their lack of respect for Sir Stripey.

Iffin ya don't want to gear up sose you can release fish properly and unharmed, then stay out of tha SURF!!! Either that or GET WET!! It's only saltwater for CRIPES SAKE!!! That's not elitist my mang, that's just the way it is. I could care less if any of the googs feelings get hurt, what about Morone Saxatilus ??

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Old 11-19-2007, 05:26 AM   #53
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It looks like there is a fish lying in the sand. Schoolie? Bluefish?
I won't do that type of scene either. I don't do the dink scene as a primary target. I just don't get a thrill from small fish.

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Old 11-19-2007, 08:02 AM   #54
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Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god.
That's me

























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Old 11-19-2007, 05:37 PM   #55
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Mike your killing me

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Old 11-19-2007, 05:39 PM   #56
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The sad thing.
There are a lot of kids in the photo.
Great to see dads taking them fishing.
Teach them to handle the fish properly and respect the future of the resource.

This weeks fisherman had a good eridorial with in the surf fishing reports by Capt. Don....

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:55 PM   #57
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Most of what I said in the paragraph you highlighted was tongue in cheek, bro.

I would attempt to approach the fish tossers/kickers, "I doan have to get my feet wet, do I", HACKS with some level of respect. Pretty hard to respect those who have no respect for themslves as witnessed by their lack of respect for Sir Stripey.

Iffin ya don't want to gear up sose you can release fish properly and unharmed, then stay out of tha SURF!!! Either that or GET WET!! It's only saltwater for CRIPES SAKE!!! That's not elitist my mang, that's just the way it is. I could care less if any of the googs feelings get hurt, what about Morone Saxatilus ??
Ok lmao my point went straight over your head mang...lemme try this again.
My suggestion that you may want to rethink the "screaming" thing wasn't to spare their feelings,it was to save you from a trip to the dentist for a denture fitting.It's easy to scream at someone on a computer but not so in the real world(online i'm 10 feet tall,the real world only 6'2") My other comments were more an attempt at getting more responses to the REAL problem with that pic,not the ugly sticks and sneakers but the fact that if we don't do something to get these people on board with proper C&R techniques the lean years of the past being revisited is a real possibility. Dat b aw i haf ta say mang,peace out
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:33 PM   #58
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i know what would happen...

BassTracker would surely wrestle the man to ground, mount him until he submits, and then have his way with him to teach him a lesson...
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:44 PM   #59
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Bart when did you get a Brown Sweetshirt?

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Old 11-19-2007, 08:45 PM   #60
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Dood, are you saying that there's full grown "men" out there that doan know how to properly release a striper or blue ?

I agree with yer point in principle, but my comments were more to the ridiculousness of these guys thinking that they deserve to treat Striper any old which way they feel, or whatever's easiest, or without having to get their feet wet. I am quite sure that a majority of those cats know the right thing to do, just too stinkin LAZY or JAZZED up over some dinks to take the time to do the right thing.

In which case they would most assuredly be deserving of a full fledged !!

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