Beach Master Plugs

[Flaptail]

They are quite possibly the best made Striper plugs available problem is you can't get them and when you can the styles and amount on hand is relatively short of choices. Just before Tahnksgiving I tried to obtain 2 yellow medium Danny's on an expected shipment to a New Bedford Tackle shop. Hah, the expected couple hundred ended up being way less and by the middle of the first day in shop they were gone. The collecting thing has gotten way out of hand, guys buying anything for way more than they are worth in the Beachmaster line.

I used to tout thier fish catching abilities but now the collectors and some ner do wells by them all up and stash them or put them up for resale for big bucks on e-bay. I can't get them to fish with because of this and the amount of plugs being produced is no where the levels of a just 2 years ago. Orders are placed for 1500 plugs and the shop recieves 120 or so.

If you ever fished a Beachmaster you know how well they produce. Now, if not willing to pay 3 times what they would normally retail for or plan your life around an expected delivery and be Johnny on the Spot, your s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g pond water. The whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. The situtaion sucks and it seems that Beachmaster is producing more for the collectors and quick scores on cash rather than for serious fishing which was what they were originally known for. I no longer view them as I once did.

Now I make my own copying them and they come out very close. All I need is one and I have all I want by firing up the lathe and air brush. Best of all they ctach fish like the originals.
If I need a plug I don't make it's Gibbs, Gag's, Tattoo Bigfish or Ryan Smith's extrordinary creations.

No more Beachmaster envy for me. It's gotten way to ridiculous.

[Back Beach]

Flap is correct; I can't add anything more of value.BBBBBBBButtttt,

all of the retailers face the same dilemma with plug availability, there's no conspiracy on their part. It’s equally frustrating for them too.

[leptar]

I won't knock (BeachMaster)... that store (CMS) gave everyone a chance to get some... pre-order...

From what i heard it was their (BeachMaster) only source of income and that their fire was light again for Striper fishing.... They (BeachMaster) have more shops to stock and still make the plugs the same exact way they always did...

It sucks, but one must do what one must do... pre-ordered and 7 months later or so....

Still waiting on another 10 or so but i'm not holding my breath.
Like what was said by Flaptail, They work, not the prettiest plug in the business but they hold their own, for me consistency is what works... now if you ever fished a Troublemaker danny... muhahaha.... It's too bad he stopped, I was fortunate to get a MAC danny... nuff said there...

[luds]

Yup.....the whole beachmaster thing sucks. I got a bunch of dannies through trading and preordering but it wasn't quite worth the time and effort. It was nice when you could just go to the shop and by them. I do tend to over buy them now when I have the oppurtunity because I don't want to deal with the hassle of hunting them down later when I need more.

[Ake G]

I'd just like one Cowboy.

I'll then put it through my meticulous "reverse engineering process", lock that guy in my duplicator and crank out hundreds of them at will for personal use....

I will give BM all the design credit.

And I'll give the new creation a clever name with the name "Ake" somewhere in it.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

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The situtaion sucks and it seems that Beachmaster is producing more for the collectors and quick scores on cash rather than for serious fishing which was what they were originally known for.

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Flap I still can't comprehend how you come to that opinion that ,that is what it seems to you What reason does it seem that way? That makes no sense at all to me.

please enlighten me

I wish he would make the danny's and juniors without the eyes

[Joe]

Maybe their true value is just now emerging?
For years, I've heard people tell me their Beachmaster would outfish other plugs 3 and 4 to 1 - so now, they're worth three and four times as much - sounds perfectly reasonable.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Flap I still can't comprehend how you come to that opinion that ,that is what it seems to you What reason does it seem that way? That makes no sense at all to me.

please enlighten me

I wish he would make the danny's and juniors without the eyes

If that was the case, that BM Bobby was "making them for the collectors", you'd think he'd be charging the shops that sell them collectors' wholesale prices.

Seems to me that the shops are selling them for about what they should be selling for--$20-$25. Even the highly prized Cowboys were going for less than $25 at the SWE booth at RIISA.

[Slipknot]

this thread has gone downhill

sea dangles, flap pm'd me his reasons and I will not go into it but you and he both probably should have kept quiet, I know it's your opinion but he said he never asked for any plugs, it's just that he was promised plugs and I'll leave it at that.

yep it's winter

[Tagger]

I'm going out on a limb here ... I predict so many people have squirreled away unfished beachmasters that there will still be plenty come the next ice age .. Only reason baseball cards are of great value is we trashed them all in are bike spokes years ago ... same thing . low blow on Larry and Flap .

[BernOC]

Let me see if I got this right...
So because a 2 man operation can't meet the overwhelming demand (personal reasons aside) his work should get blasted because you can't get a few? I haven't seen any detiorioration in quality, perhaps I'm lucky . There are much more "pretty" plugs available these days without paint splatters, dings and dents. Go for it.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by BernOC

Let me see if I got this right...

I think Beachmaster is top of the game ..

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by Mike P

If that was the case, that BM Bobby was "making them for the collectors", you'd think he'd be charging the shops that sell them collectors' wholesale prices.

Seems to me that the shops are selling them for about what they should be selling for--$20-$25. Even the highly prized Cowboys were going for less than $25 at the SWE booth at RIISA.

The shop prices havent changed much from 6-7 years ago when I first started picking them up. Dannys were $17 and the A-40's were $20 back then

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

If I need a plug I don't make it's Gibbs, Gag's, Tattoo Bigfish or Ryan Smith's extrordinary creations.

Yea right ...a little bird told me you fish Numbskulls ...

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Yea right ...a little bird told me you fish Numbskulls ...

He is a plug slut are`nt we all?

[numbskull]

BM makes excellent plugs, always has, and I've caught more quality fish over the last twenty years on his plugs than any other brand (never had access to Musso/Pichney wood), BUT anyone who claims BM are plugs are "consistent" please tell me which of the following is a BM medium danny.

[numbskull]

Maybe this will help.

[numbskull]

or this?

[numbskull]

A tenth of an inch difference in a 6" plug has MAJOR effects on the plug's action. Both catch fish, but in my hands the green shape is a much better plug than the pogie shape. I have found similar discrepancies in cowboys, darters and large dannys. I think Bobby did more to keep wooden plugs alive than anyone other than Gibbs, and BM plugs have always had a lot going for them, but consistency is NOT one of them.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Maybe this will help.

ummm ... one old bm (blind) ... one new bm (eyes),,,, nice gizzzmo .

[piemma]

About 5 or 6 years ago I traded a jointed Habs, from before John was selling (circa 91, 92) for a very large jointed Beachmaster. It has never been fished or even out o my basement.
What's it worth today?

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by piemma

About 5 or 6 years ago I traded a jointed Habs, from before John was selling (circa 91, 92) for a very large jointed Beachmaster. It has never been fished or even out o my basement.
What's it worth today?

This week, or last week? Saw some a month ago for about $80.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by piemma

About 5 or 6 years ago I traded a jointed Habs, from before John was selling (circa 91, 92) for a very large jointed Beachmaster. It has never been fished or even out o my basement.
What's it worth today?

If it's this one
It's at over $150 now.
That's what I call an expensive BM

[MAC]

Originally Posted by piemma

About 5 or 6 years ago I traded a jointed Habs, from before John was selling (circa 91, 92) for a very large jointed Beachmaster. It has never been fished or even out o my basement.
What's it worth today?

It depends on if the GOTTA HAVE IT crowd bid. Could be worth 40 to 50 bux may go for over a "C" note...

[thefishingfreak]

Anyone who spends crazy money on these for "Custom masterpieces" needs there head examined.
They might be proven fish catchers but in my eyes the quality is outright Junk.
This plug was swapped to me and apon arrival I demanded My plug Back.
When I since sold this darter on ebay I recieved the only negative feedback I have. The buyer thought it was a joke as whell.
I had to refund the buyers money and I'm Still left with negative feedback.

Crooked beak. crooked eyes, tailwrap loose as my first attempts. and the finish, newbie swap material at best.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...tems=25&page=3

[wrikerjr]

rather than knocking bm, if you don't like them don't buy them.

I fish them they work and I have a lot of confidence in them. I see alot of stuff on this thread that is just flat out bs. Plugs change over time dimensions are altered for various reasons. The bottom line is that beachmaster is one of the premier custom plug makers out there.

It i sfunny because you see threads like this where people bash him and then you see threads where people say that other plug makers are better than BM and the same people who thrash him in this thread defend him in the others. Very Interesting!!!