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12-31-2007, 10:04 PM
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Uncle Remus
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Look him up. What a savage. Make #^&#^&#^&#^& Butkas look like a girl scout.
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12-31-2007, 10:24 PM
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Gone Dark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Look him up. What a savage. Make #^&#^&#^&#^& Butkas look like a girl scout.
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he was the guy who bit someone's ear off..right. |
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12-31-2007, 10:44 PM
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Uncle Remus
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Just a finger that was jammed into his face mask  Mike Tyson is th ear biter |
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01-01-2008, 11:57 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Well, George I messed with the weighting and I was able to remove 2 ounces of lead and after some tweaking I have what I now believe may be a killer in deep water. Hard to tell how deep she goes but I'd venture to guess at least 10 feet. It's a real thumper, but the wiggle is relativley tight. I had to make special belly weights to get the right ammount of weight in the right places.
It now floats, but sits mostly submerged, 
130 days (or so) 'til I can try it!  |
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01-03-2008, 08:33 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Still not quite right. Soft maple, no weight, 2.5oz unrigged (.3oz more than they should weigh) float deep, think they'll swim OK.
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01-03-2008, 08:46 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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maybe just pic ... one I have looks longer and slimmer . Pichney
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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01-03-2008, 08:53 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Are yours Jr.'s ?
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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01-03-2008, 08:55 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Yup....Jr's. Hey, Eddy, your white one got a bigger chin hook? Interesting. Somebody who knew plugs owned that one (check out the eye). Is it weighted or not? (For Christ's sake don't cut it if you can't tell).
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01-03-2008, 09:05 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Yup....Jr's. Hey, Eddy, your white one got a bigger chin hook? Interesting. Somebody who knew plugs owned that one (check out the eye). Is it weighted or not?
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weighs 2.6... weighted ? not sure there's only one way for me to find that out ..  |
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01-03-2008, 09:12 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
weighs 2.6... weighted ? not sure there's only one way for me to find that out .. |
On a Pichney you can see the belly weight hole if it is in there, if not yours is probably maple. 2.5 -2.6 rigged is what the pine ones weigh as well. Not sure why mine are too heavy. Too much sealer, epoxy, too thick a lip? To top it off, my weighted pine ones are too light (2oz unrigged)...go figure. |
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01-03-2008, 09:18 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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no visible belly weight .. yes its a Pichney .. Funny,, the hooks bouncing off the wood ,,the sound is very resonant.. sounds like hard wood . Maybe your picking up weight soaking in that crude oil .. My cpes is light and wispy ..
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01-04-2008, 09:40 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Can you ALWAYS see the weights in a Pichney (new to studying the master)... I borrowed some Pichney large Dannys from Charley Soares and you can't see a belly weight to save your life----I know they're in there though.... I just know it! 
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01-04-2008, 09:57 AM
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Uncle Remus
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I'd say very visible, didn't try to hide them in the ones I have seen. I'd say it is a heavier wood if no visible signs of belly weight. Like to get the calipers on one of those danny's Dave George I bet those Jr's will be fine. Nice job. |
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01-04-2008, 12:26 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
Can you ALWAYS see the weights in a Pichney (new to studying the master)... I borrowed some Pichney large Dannys from Charley Soares and you can't see a belly weight to save your life----I know they're in there though.... I just know it!
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I haven't seen enough unfished ones to be sure. In the few I have the weight hole is readily evident. If you are looking to know how much weight in a large Danny, I have one that I'll probably xray next week. |
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01-04-2008, 02:21 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Yes I'd like to know that. One of them was still sealed in the original bag, I refused to open it but Charley insisted. Still had the masters thumb print on the lip!
I can't imagine a danny swimming properly w/o weight but my last name is Anderson not Pichney
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01-04-2008, 06:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
I haven't seen enough unfished ones to be sure. In the few I have the weight hole is readily evident. If you are looking to know how much weight in a large Danny, I have one that I'll probably xray next week.
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01-05-2008, 01:02 PM
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Registered User
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conrads
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help
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01-05-2008, 01:23 PM
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Super Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metallip
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help
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 Thanks
Yes that was some help. |
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01-05-2008, 01:48 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metallip
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help
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01-05-2008, 02:11 PM
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Thank you mucho
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
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01-13-2008, 06:36 PM
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Nice thread..
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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01-14-2008, 05:40 AM
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I'm gonna try toying with the body shape a little...
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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01-14-2008, 05:41 AM
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I have found with the conrads U have to make the lip.It has a pretty steep face..It's not hard to make a few.
I rough em out with snips an clean em up on the belt sander.
Play with the length of the lower portion of the lip.I made a jr that went 2.7 oz
The lower part of the lip was slightly longer.. I thru it out in a 1 kt current an I could barely bring it back.It had a real wide wobble bam bam bam back an forth.I couldn't even pop it out of the water.I thought about giving it a big shot of lead in the pooper but that would take away from the depth,I thought..
I took it home an ground down the lenght of the lip some an it works nice an tight...
Not sure about the depth.Maybe 5 ft.I think the depths obtained on some wooden lures is slightly over rated...
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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01-15-2008, 11:44 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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You mean like these.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=45686
I made the big ones too. Thanks for the info Tony. I will put it to good use. I am making some Bluestreak A-40 type lips tonite as they are different than the A-40 lips available right now, not a lot but different.
Question for you. How much lead did you put in the belly of the one you made? A big chunk up past the thru wire?
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01-15-2008, 03:45 PM
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No, If I go thru the wire I pour it in little blasts so it don't go everywhere.
I don't remember how much lead.A good sized chunk.I use whats around an beat it to shape.I do remember it came out heavier than I originally wanted.I messed up the first coat of epoxy an had to go 2 coats which also made it heavier.But it was ok.
Nice lips..
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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