Someone lying thru their teeth....?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wrikerjr

Who here believes that for 10 years roger clemens has been taking performance enhancing drugs???

Who here believes that for 10 years Barry Bonds has been taking performance enhancing drugs??

Why is it so easy to Believe Bonds did it but so hard for people to Believe Clemens did it.

I've been seeing a lot of Rookie Card to Later years comparisons....looks like Roger Bulked up a little too...

[Clogston29]

if he is innocent, why didn't he accuse McNamee of lying or ask why he lied during the recorded phone conversation. it seamed like he took more of a "how could you do this to me" (i.e. how could you rat me out like this) approach. I don't know what his lawyers were thinking playing that tape, you really have to be in Clemen's corner already to come away with anything positive out of that tape.

I think that he did it and I hope that its proven and that lots of other crap about him (adultery, etc.) comes out during the civil suite - all because he's so arrogant.

But if he is innocent, you gotta feel bad for the guy.

[BigFish]

Originally Posted by Clogston29

if he is innocent, why didn't he accuse McNamee of lying or ask why he lied during the recorded phone conversation. it seamed like he took more of a "how could you do this to me" (i.e. how could you rat me out like this) approach. I don't know what his lawyers were thinking playing that tape, you really have to be in Clemen's corner already to come away with anything positive out of that tape.

I think that he did it and I hope that its proven and that lots of other crap about him (adultery, etc.) comes out during the civil suite - all because he's so arrogant.

But if he is innocent, you gotta feel bad for the guy.

Adultery???? Where does that come from???

[BigFish]

Kevin....take an early baseball card of Seaver or Ryan and a late career card......they all bulked up the same.....thats how power pitchers are built! That proves nothing...everyone changes over the years! Difference with Bonds is he put on muscle......and lots of it! How many players have a career year (73 homeruns?) at 38 years old??? Come on!

[wrikerjr]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Kevin....take an early baseball card of Seaver or Ryan and a late career card......they all bulked up the same.....thats how power pitchers are built! That proves nothing...everyone changes over the years! Difference with Bonds is he put on muscle......and lots of it! How many players have a career year (73 homeruns?) at 38 years old??? Come on!

great point

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BigFish

That proves nothing...everyone changes over the years! Difference with Bonds is he put on muscle......and lots of it! How many players have a career year (73 homeruns?) at 38 years old??? Come on!

Yes we do--our once sculpted pecs become man-boobs, or even worse, merge with our expanding waistlines.

Take another look at Raw-juh. That isn't fat you see on him making up all that bulk.