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Old 01-10-2008, 11:54 AM   #1
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I have mixed feelings on this. Did you see the pics of the US ships compared to those Iranian speedboats ? Why weren't they fired upon immediately?
I'm all for wiping them out but I feel like this is kind of like a big strong kid getting teased by a little wimp and the big kids goes and whines about it.
I think it makes the US look weak. We should have sunk them or shut up about it. I dont think this is an international incident.

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:17 PM   #2
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RIJIMMY - tell that to the crew of the USS COLE, one of those wimpy little kids ripped a hole in the side of their ship.

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:28 PM   #3
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It would have been an International Incident had we responded with force.........which I think we should have! You warn them and they do not listen......blast away!

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Keep poking the bear,Mohammed.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:41 PM   #5
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There is not a bunch of info out there yet, just speculation. Scuttlebutt has that the CO was in the process of giving the order to fire when they turned away - but that is just rumor. But the guns were manned and ready.

What were their Rules of Engagement? Don't fire until fired upon? Don't fire until the last possible moment (that moment was really close)? Sounds like the Navy was doing everything in accordance with law and seamanship.

If they did fire, would we be in a shooting war? Sure the Iranians were deserving to meet Allah, but this was probably just a probe to find out what it would take to or attempt to provoke the US into responding, or yet another time when Iran stirs the pot just before some big global meeting where Iran will get drug out on the carpet...

This has happened before and will happen again, I just hope the next time doesn't turn into a shooting war and if it does, Iran doesn't get its licks in first.

Pretty reckless by the IRGN

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Old 01-10-2008, 07:48 PM   #6
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I don't really think this is all that big of a deal. They were probably just seeing what they could get away with and what we might do. It's not like Iran wants any piece of a fight with the US.

They know we're not going to let another USS Cole happen, no Navy Capt'n is going to let that happen to their crew if they can help it.

So here we're supposed to be concerned about this "most dangerous nation on the planet" and all they can do is zip by the US Navy in a speed boat that needs a good hull painting?

This is the biggest threat to our national defense? Give me a break. We have bigger issues to worry about.

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Old 01-10-2008, 07:51 PM   #7
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This is the biggest threat to our national defense? Give me a break. We have bigger issues to worry about.

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The very biggest issue.Taking on a third arab country?VERY BIG.We're stretched thin already.Iran knows what it's doing,they prayed to allah we'd fire so they could "legitimately" enter into the current stupidity.When you truly believe god says its ok to kill you do it.

Add N.Korea,Pakistan,India,China etc. to the mix,then what...WW3maybe.We've done it twice already and no one saw it coming or they didn't believe it could happen.

This isn't paranoia,its reality.The possibility is real.

We should've CRUSHED our enemies when we had the chance but we blew it and now the world's sentiment is against us.

The rest of the world seems clueless these days how important America is to them.Ask anybody of Eur-Asian decent born on or before 1945.

Islam is scary in the 21st century.No more "lead,follow or get of the way".It's now "follow or die".

I would truly feel better knowing that an asteroid was plunging towards Earth than I would about the reality of our world situation.

After saying all that my recommendation would be drink heavily(or do some killer drugs) and hook up with the woman as often as possilble, try to get some fishing in.Don't worry be "happy"(drunk,stoned and laid).

That ain't just stirrin' the pot...its smokin it!

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I don't really think this is all that big of a deal. They were probably just seeing what they could get away with and what we might do. It's not like Iran wants any piece of a fight with the US.

They know we're not going to let another USS Cole happen, no Navy Capt'n is going to let that happen to their crew if they can help it.

So here we're supposed to be concerned about this "most dangerous nation on the planet" and all they can do is zip by the US Navy in a speed boat that needs a good hull painting?

This is the biggest threat to our national defense? Give me a break. We have bigger issues to worry about.

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OMG ! I agree with Spence!

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Old 01-11-2008, 10:06 AM   #10
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RIJIMMY - tell that to the crew of the USS COLE, one of those wimpy little kids ripped a hole in the side of their ship.

exactly, so why didnt we shoot them asap? if we were threatened, we should defend oursleves, if not , dont take it to the media and whine about it.

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