Does this mean ?

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

You seem angry !

Not angry, rather ~numb and confused by many of the gametime decisions.

Merely stating some facts and keeping the emotion out of it.
Records do mean something, as they are the markers of our Greatest Teams and the system by which we measure GREATNESS!

SB wins are a huge factor, but do you honestly think that THESE Patriots ~the way they are constructed and constituted~ will not get to the SB again, or more importantly, that they are not capable of WINNING more than one more? I dunno what's worse a Stankees fan hoopin' and hollerin' about NY beating Boston again, or all these other fans ~who didn't have a dog in the fight, like you~ rooting against the Patriots because of their Greatness and not because they like the Giants. FRAUDS, everyone of them! Haters to the core!

By the way, when do you project your "team" to be relevant, again?
2015, '20, '25 ?

[The Dad Fisherman]

*********Disclaimer**********
The Views and Opinions of Bassdawg are not necesarilly those of S-B.com and its membership. Most of the members have come to terms with the loss suffered on Sunday and have offered, Graciously, our Congratulations to the Members who are Giants Fans. We have also come to terms That, with the Superbowl Loss, The 2007 Patriots can not be Declared as one of the Greatest teams ever. Since it was determined, in Past threads discussing great teams, that Winning the big One has to be part of said Declaration.

We would also like to state that Any Comments from Fans of other teams are falling on Deaf ears as they really didn't have anything emotionally invested in the Superbowl.....especially those who's teams were eliminated from the Play-offs before the 1st Snow Fall of the Season (as a matter of fact they haven't won a Superbowl in more than 2 Decades)......as they are just slowly turning into crotchety old men who take joy in the failings of others.

[The Iceman 6]

It really comes down to winning the superbowl. Pats would of traded a perfect season for it hands-down. Big Blue wanted it more, they were hungrier for it and won every aspect of that game. In 20 years, all people will remember is that the Giants won it and it will go down as one of the biggest upsets of all time and prob. the best 4th Q of all time. The 2008 SB will be in top 5.

Ice

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Since it was determined, in Past threads discussing great teams, that Winning the big One has to be part of said Declaration.

We would also like to state that Any Comments from Fans of other teams are falling on Deaf ears as they really didn't have anything emotionally invested in the Superbowl.....especially those who's teams were eliminated from the Play-offs before the 1st Snow Fall of the Season (as a matter of fact they haven't won a Superbowl in more than 2 Decades)......as they are just slowly turning into crotchety old men who take joy in the failings of others.

So, Kevin, if/when the Patriots continue their dominance and greatness for the next three to four years are you saying that they had to WIN last Sunday at ALL costs of future Greatness?

I believe that THESE Pats are capable of much more (2 more rings ~at least), and the embarassment of this missed opportunity will drive them to be that much better next year. Don't see these players walking around with their tails between their legs, do you?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

So, Kevin, if/when the Patriots continue their dominance and greatness for the next three to four years are you saying that they had to WIN last Sunday at ALL costs of future Greatness?

If there Dominance and Greatness the next 3-4 years Includes an SB victory or 2 then No, they didn't have to win last Sunday......But if it doesn't include Superbowl Wins...Abso-freakin-lutely they had to win last Sunday......but let them win them before we Coronate them

and as far as Greatest team Ever.....that is usually Judged on a Single Season (et. al. 72 Dolphins, 84 Niners,) so they blew their chance for that recognition this season

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

*********Disclaimer**********
The Views and Opinions of Bassdawg are not necesarilly those of S-B.com and its membership. Most of the members have come to terms with the loss suffered on Sunday and have offered, Graciously, our Congratulations to the Members who are Giants Fans. We have also come to terms That, with the Superbowl Loss, The 2007 Patriots can not be Declared as one of the Greatest teams ever. Since it was determined, in Past threads discussing great teams, that Winning the big One has to be part of said Declaration.

We would also like to state that Any Comments from Fans of other teams are falling on Deaf ears as they really didn't have anything emotionally invested in the Superbowl.....especially those who's teams were eliminated from the Play-offs before the 1st Snow Fall of the Season (as a matter of fact they haven't won a Superbowl in more than 2 Decades)......as they are just slowly turning into crotchety old men who take joy in the failings of others.

That's why I'm only breaking balls with bass dawg