Why I hate democrats

[179]

"The amounts that I pay to this great country is nothing compared to the amount of benefits I receive"

PaulS then you really need to get the checkbook out today and write that check we have been talking about, why do you have to wait for Hillary or Obama to take it from you? I think you would sleep better tonight and feel better about yourself in the morning if you just do it now on your own. I think 10-20% above what you will pay this year would be the magic number to please them.

I do have a quick question for you. Are tax increases okay across the board or should only the wealthy be punished? Is it ok for you to ante up the money for the Dems proposals or should it be paid for on the backs of others?

After all Hillary has a dream of building a Woodstock museum somebody has got to pay for it.

[spence]

Originally Posted by 179

Are tax increases okay across the board or should only the wealthy be punished? Is it ok for you to ante up the money for the Dems proposals or should it be paid for on the backs of others?

More nonsense...

Why do you put this on the shoulder of Dem proposals? President Bush and the Republican Congress have been on a spending bender for most of his Presidency. There are "big government Republicans" just like "big government liberals" just like there are "fiscal conservatives" and "Blue Dog Democrats".

Your continued fixation on liberalisim as the source of an intrusive and excessive government simply isn't founded in reality.

And punishment is a silly rhetorical device. We have a progressive tax system precisely because the middle class doesn't generate the revenue to sustain the government that we all benefit from. And guess what? Those with wealth have a better ability to use their money to make money off of the improved infrastructure.

Hell, would we even have a Middle Class without the rich paying an oversized percentage of the federal budget? What would the wealthy have done without a growing Middle Class the past century to drive our consumer driven economy and staff the factories that generated such incredible wealth and prosperity?

There's trickle up as well as trickle down. It's not about one idiology being right and the other wrong. That's ignorant.

It's about the right balance...

-spence

[striperman36]

MAn, spence, you should have written for FDR. You might have had to tone it down little to frame it correctly.

Bill

[spence]

Originally Posted by striperman36

MAn, spence, you should have written for FDR. You might have had to tone it down little to frame it correctly.

Wow, what praise!!!

Thanks,

-spence

[striperman36]

Oh excuse me FDR WAS A FRIGGIN DEMOCRAT!!!!

I take it back.

[spence]

-spence

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by 179

"The amounts that I pay to this great country is nothing compared to the amount of benefits I receive"

PaulS then you really need to get the checkbook out today and write that check we have been talking about, why do you have to wait for Hillary or Obama to take it from you? I think you would sleep better tonight and feel better about yourself in the morning if you just do it now on your own. I think 10-20% above what you will pay this year would be the magic number to please them.

I do have a quick question for you. Are tax increases okay across the board or should only the wealthy be punished? Is it ok for you to ante up the money for the Dems proposals or should it be paid for on the backs of others?

After all Hillary has a dream of building a Woodstock museum somebody has got to pay for it.

Hey, I write plenty of checks to charity - you should try it cause as I said you seem pretty miserable and seem to have a lot of hate. It might help your self esteem and cheer you up.

The ones who have more should be asked to do more. That's why people at different income levels should pay at different rates.

Good for Hillary - NY pays far more in taxes than they receive back from the Fed. Anything that she can do to level that field, I'm all for. States that don't pay their fair share should be ashamed of themselves and should admit that its basically welfare.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

States that don't pay their fair share should be ashamed of themselves and should admit that its basically welfare.

Paul,
real 'Collapse' by Jared Diamond (Also wrote Guns, Germs and Steel).

Great chapter on Montana and how it stays afloat as a viable state b/c of fed input of money...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Paul,
real 'Collapse' by Jared Diamond (Also wrote Guns, Germs and Steel).

Great chapter on Montana and how it stays afloat as a viable state b/c of fed input of money...

Thanks, I may get the book at the library.

I really don't mind paying taxes to help areas/people who are less fortunate than me/us. However, it makes me laugh when people complain about taxes or welfare when they receive benefits more than they pay into the system.

[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

NY pays far more in taxes than they receive back from the Fed. Anything that she can do to level that field, I'm all for. States that don't pay their fair share should be ashamed of themselves and should admit that its basically welfare.

Typically the big "Blue States" like CA, MN, IL, NY, NJ, MA, CT, VT etc...pay more in Federal Taxes and get less in return while the "Red States" suck more from the Federal Government and return less in tax revenue. It's not a clear split, but there's clearly a trend.

This does make some sense for the most part. States with large economies like CA or NY are going to generate more taxable revenue streams, they also have a lot of wealth.

So when hurricane Katrina leveled LA, MS and AL...they can thank their stars there were states with a net positive revenue contribution to help them rebuild in a time of need. Is this socialisim? A waste of your tax money?

-spence