New On The Water tournament rules

[Slingah]

just divide into two catagories already....

[Sea Dangles]

OTW is adamant about keeping one category and maintaining their imaginary handicap. Similar to golf or bowling. It doesn't seem as though a shore and a boat category would be unreasonable.Someday I am sure they will present a reasonable format.The adjustment made in the handicap index will certainly prove to be useless now that they have banned yo-yo fishing from the boat category.
I wonder why there are two divisions yet they try to handicap one of them and offer one prize.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I wonder why there are two divisions yet they try to handicap one of them and offer one prize.

That's a very good question.



I am not even gonna comment on the yo-yo thing

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The adjustment made in the handicap index will certainly prove to be useless now that they have banned yo-yo fishing from the boat category.

There are still plenty of ways to catch quality bass w/o yo-yo rigs Chris... unless we have a year like this past again, I bet a boat club takes it in 08'

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

There are still plenty of ways to catch quality bass w/o yo-yo rigs Chris... unless we have a year like this past again, I bet a boat club takes it in 08'

The majority of my big fish came from shore this past year so I understand there are different methods(too bad I entered the boat division last year,that won't happen again).I would not underestimate the amount of anglers from the competetive clubs(#^&#^&#^&#^&s,Linesider,Striper) who use the yo-yo technique for their big fish,therefore the handicap adjustment will be will not level the field as intended IMO. Time will tell.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I wonder why there are two divisions yet they try to handicap one of them and offer one prize.

Because one truck is cheaper than two.

[Clogston29]

i don't think they want to dilute things by breaking it up. the idea of the tournament is to build interest and bring awareness to the magazine and sponsores. they probably think, and i agree, that further breaking things up would only make it less interesting, desireable and competetive from a club perspective. simply comparing the boat and surf catches from the last few years shows that the factor is required and that 1.2 seams fair. and at least with the factor, there's a chance that a real club (or website ) can win over a group of commercial guys who create what is essentially an all star team.

remember, its strictly for bragging purposes. no prizes are awarded to the club winners. all the prizes are in categories that are broken up by boat or surf or junior.

[Swimmer]

Yo Yo Ma will be disappointed! But he'll live with the rule changes.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Clogston29

i don't think they want to dilute things by breaking it up. the idea of the tournament is to build interest and bring awareness to the magazine and sponsores. they probably think, and i agree, that further breaking things up would only make it less interesting, desireable and competetive from a club perspective. simply comparing the boat and surf catches from the last few years shows that the factor is required and that 1.2 seams fair. and at least with the factor, there's a chance that a real club (or website ) can win over a group of commercial guys who create what is essentially an all star team.

remember, its strictly for bragging purposes. no prizes are awarded to the club winners. all the prizes are in categories that are broken up by boat or surf or junior.

If you look at how the tournament is set up it is obvious that it caters to two divisions.Prizes are different for shore and boat and then they try to marry the two divisions with a handicap system for fishing which is for golfers.I realize the two categories historically can not compete and like you said no prizes are awarded so essentially they would have to buy another trophy.
As far as not diluting the tournament,you answered your own question.Who among us would be less interested in the Cup if it had two categories?IMO it would serve to only generate more interest because the numbers and results would be real, not a magical formula that awards prizes based on a handicap.The club that caught the most pounds of fish would actually be the winner in their respective categories rather than a victory based on adjustments and formulas.
The idea that all boat entries are commercial fishermen is also a fantasy to make shore guys feel like more of an underdog.Surely there are a greater number of comms amongst the boats but there are commercial shore guys competing also.I would estimate the number of comm. guys in the boat division to be 50%.What exactly qualifies you to brand a certain team allstars?Obviously one guy got a bunch of his friends together to form a competetive team.How does that differ from your team(or website)which,unless I am mistaken offers a spot on the roster to anyone who "logs in."

[Diggin Jiggin]

If splitting it into seperate divisions means we kill twice as many big fish then I'd rather see them leave it the way it is and just keep adjusting the formula to get something thats close to even. The more years worth of data they have, the more accurate the handicap will get.

It also nice to see OTW take a stand against Yo Yo'ing. The commercial guys are still going to do it, as that's how many of them are earning a living. So if this removes some of those Commercial fish from the contest I'm all for that, as the # of fish they get to keep/cull thru has always been an unfair advantage.

I do like competing against the boat guys, its kind of like Red Sox vs Yankees. Boat guys are obviously the yankees...

[Sea Dangles]

The sox don't need a handicap.They win like real men.