Learning on your own? anyone do this anymore?

[OffTheHook13]

Not everyone is an expert.

Not everyone has an unlimited amount of time to test and try different gear, locations etc.

Maybe the guy that asks about the type of swivel or plug to use is a beginner with no knowledge of this sport whatsoever.

Maybe he/she asks because he/she hasn't had the chance to learn yet or has just joined this, or any other fishing site for that matter.

The fact is, noone should be made to feel that any question is stupid.

IT'S NOT!

Go ahead and ask away.

That's what the "EXPERTS" are here for.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by OffTheHook13

Not everyone is an expert.

Not everyone has an unlimited amount of time to test and try different gear, locations etc.

Maybe the guy that asks about the type of swivel or plug to use is a beginner with no knowledge of this sport whatsoever.

Maybe he/she asks because he/she hasn't had the chance to learn yet or has just joined this, or any other fishing site for that matter.

The fact is, noone should be made to feel that any question is stupid.

IT'S NOT!

Go ahead and ask away.

That's what the "EXPERTS" are here for.

Not sure there are any "So called" experts...It's fishing..not brain surgery..Lets get real here..

I think most new guys get more confused than anything else due to all the diff. opinions.

[Clammer]

WELL

I see your feeling better ::

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Clammer

WELL

I see your feeling better ::

Holy ^%$#@! he's alive..WHAT"S UP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUD:wav e:

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Clammer

WELL

I see your feeling better ::

Ah yes mike...A little kick in the pants post that gets "good" chatter going....
Its the meds

[bart]

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&- i'm sure you learned everything you know on your own. Jim white, Tim Coleman.....they were of no help to you.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by bart

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&- i'm sure you learned everything you know on your own. Jim white, Tim Coleman.....they were of no help to you.

Acually the answer is NO...and you can ask those guys...Its why I have gained there respect over the years, I figured out things for myself... There friends and people I fish with that I met sometime ago...Sure we talked about fishing and share ideas etc...but none of them held my hand and showed me the ropes...Your wrong on that count...Many of those guys in days past were making money from selling fish, they were not about to let others cash in by handing out free advice

[fishbones]

I learned from fishing with my father and grandfather. I certainly didn't learn to be a "sharpie", but I learned enough to go out and become addicted to fishing and have a lot of fun. I also learned by going into the local B&T's when I was old enough to drive myself around. When I joined this site, I was amazed at the knowledge a lot of the people here had, and I lurked and paid attention. I took information and used some of it and disregarded a lot of it. What I have learned most here is that a lot of people will be very helpful and gladly share things...especially if you contribute to the community here. I also learned that most people have opinions about what gear to use and what bait/lures to use. And, we all know what opinions are like. The best advice that I have picked up here though is to just go out and fish as much as you can. The internet is great and has tons of information, but there is no substitute for being out there experiencing it.

I understand people asking questions, but it's too often that someone signs up here and then starts threads about every aspect of striper fishing "what, when, where, why and how" under the sun. The search feature here will probably give most people enough information to keep them busy until the spring migration. Too many people want instant gratification and don't want to do the research or work themselves.

Maybe John R could set up the site so that new members could only start a thread if they had a certain # of posts under their belt? That way, they could really become familiar with the site and could contribute to threads started by other members.

[Clogston29]

To me, the problem isn’t the asking of questions, its that a lot of people want there to be only one answer to their question and they want it to be easy and something that they don’t have to think about and experiment with.

Example: What’s the best lure for stripers? They want someone to tell them what it is and how to fish it and they want that to work. They don’t want to hear that it depends on conditions, structure, current, etc. They don’t want to accept that it’s an ever changing thing even in a given spot and that they’re going to have to spend tons time and experience lots of failure in order to figure it out.

Questions and opinions (stress that opinions, not facts) offered in response to questions are great if they are taken, thought about, applied, evaluated, tweaked, applied, evaluated, etc.

IMHO the problem isn’t people asking questions, its people wanting it to be easy. Its not, and that has to be accepted and enjoyed or you should just pick something else to do with your time.

[OffTheHook13]

Did you know????

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Clogston29

To me, the problem isn’t the asking of questions, its that a lot of people want there to be only one answer to their question and they want it to be easy and something that they don’t have to think about and experiment with.

Example: What’s the best lure for stripers? They want someone to tell them what it is and how to fish it and they want that to work. They don’t want to hear that it depends on conditions, structure, current, etc. They don’t want to accept that it’s an ever changing thing even in a given spot and that they’re going to have to spend tons time and experience lots of failure in order to figure it out.

Questions and opinions (stress that opinions, not facts) offered in response to questions are great if they are taken, thought about, applied, evaluated, tweaked, applied, evaluated, etc.

IMHO the problem isn’t people asking questions, its people wanting it to be easy. Its not, and that has to be accepted and enjoyed or you should just pick something else to do with your time.

Kind of what I said but get in trouble for, but basically I agree and its what I am saying in general...I said they ask the question multiple ways to get the answer that suits them

[OffTheHook13]

Maybe some of the newbs are trying to fit in.

Why criticize?

The whole purpose of these boards is to post BS.

Get you through the winter.

No need to try and make anyone feel like they are an idiot if they ask a question you may think is stupid.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I learned from fishing with my father and grandfather. I certainly didn't learn to be a "sharpie", but I learned enough to go out and become addicted to fishing and have a lot of fun. I also learned by going into the local B&T's when I was old enough to drive myself around. When I joined this site, I was amazed at the knowledge a lot of the people here had, and I lurked and paid attention. I took information and used some of it and disregarded a lot of it. What I have learned most here is that a lot of people will be very helpful and gladly share things...especially if you contribute to the community here. I also learned that most people have opinions about what gear to use and what bait/lures to use. And, we all know what opinions are like. The best advice that I have picked up here though is to just go out and fish as much as you can. The internet is great and has tons of information, but there is no substitute for being out there experiencing it.

I understand people asking questions, but it's too often that someone signs up here and then starts threads about every aspect of striper fishing "what, when, where, why and how" under the sun. The search feature here will probably give most people enough information to keep them busy until the spring migration. Too many people want instant gratification and don't want to do the research or work themselves.

Maybe John R could set up the site so that new members could only start a thread if they had a certain # of posts under their belt? That way, they could really become familiar with the site and could contribute to threads started by other members.

Awesome post and said better than me! Exactly The everything under the sun stuff should be on another board and made a sticky or something, so you dont have to answer the same question 10 billion times...But good post

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

so you dont have to answer the same question 10 billion times...But good post

Thats one of the points I'm trying to make....you don't HAVE to answer the same question 10 billion times....you can always just ignore it.

someone who wants to answer it is more than welcome to....

and the people that come here for instant gratification you can simply point them to the search feature..... and if they don't want to bother with that....once again nobody's twisting anybodies arm to answer their question.

and you can't realistically run a board where you won't let people ask questions....nobody will stick around a board like that.

[chris L]

hep me hep me hep me . Im on fire . hep me hep me

I only say stupid things never ask too many questions smart or stupid . Im not stupid Im with stupid .

now back to saturday night .
how many beers did I have ?