A Mideast Perspective

[striperman36]

Unfortunately I don't see any choice for president in 2008 make the strong stand to expand the conflict to go after the true disruptor Iran and put it all in to do so.
The Republic as it stands, stands truly on the brink of a precipice. I unfortunately can't see it standing there for much longer, probably less than my lifetime. We have lost some much in this Republic, all be it in small little bitty pieces, this last large chunk will just allow to fall all the way down.
Like the fall of the Roman Empire, that took centuries, but for us it will on take decades before we follow every other Post WWII power over the edge.

[spence]

I thought I had penned a response to this thread earlier in the week, but I must have botched the submit...oh well.

To be honest I think this guy is a bit of a nut, and the simple fact that he was trained to tell a bottle rocket from an ICBM gives him about as much street cred to discuss foreign policy as I have

I won't bother with a blow by blow retort, but his factual assertions above seem to be based mostly on a heavily biased opinion and not objectivity.

Like the now defunct Cheyenne Mountain where he served, he seems to be another Cold War relic, who's identity is driven more by his percieved enemy than his own purpose.

Iran is going to be an ongoing challenge, but it's hardly a "true disruptor". Rather, I'd more accurately describe them as "opportunists".

-spence

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Unfortunately I don't see any choice for president in 2008 make the strong stand to expand the conflict to go after the true disruptor Iran and put it all in to do so.
The Republic as it stands, stands truly on the brink of a precipice. I unfortunately can't see it standing there for much longer, probably less than my lifetime. We have lost some much in this Republic, all be it in small little bitty pieces, this last large chunk will just allow to fall all the way down.
Like the fall of the Roman Empire, that took centuries, but for us it will on take decades before we follow every other Post WWII power over the edge.

Pretty dire predictions S-Man, you think this country is self-destructing? I have a close friend who is very optimistic, he believes that now with energy being the biggest single need in the world today, mankind has the intelligence to develop new radical forms of energy, some of them limitless.

Talk about turning the Mid-East into the irrelevant.

[striperman36]

Would be nice if that were true, however, as history shows, nothing lasts forever.

[spence]

The World is going to change a lot in the next several decades, there's no doubt about that. I certainly do see an drop in the wealth (and excess) of the US, but this might not be all of a bad thing as long as we can keep global wars, famine etc... at bay.

I believe some radical change is going to be needed in our system to control this transition. But to date, I've not heard anything from Barak that gives me confidence he understands or has a strategy to help guide us. McCain may not be much better...

-spence

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by spence

The World is going to change a lot in the next several decades, there's no doubt about that. I certainly do see an drop in the wealth (and excess) of the US, but this might not be all of a bad thing as long as we can keep global wars, famine etc... at bay.

I believe some radical change is going to be needed in our system to control this transition. But to date, I've not heard anything from Barak that gives me confidence he understands or has a strategy to help guide us. McCain may not be much better...

-spence

Just as long as we can fish.

And yes, I don't see anyone running that can help guide us. And Bush just wants to go back to the ranch.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Hooper

mankind has the intelligence to develop new radical forms of energy, some of them limitless.

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one of those would be wave power,the other is solar.the other is wind,and another is hydro power,

to quote Saltheart: Why do we have to colonize everywhere?



more like insisting every other society is a democracy