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		 EricW, Thanks for that info, I would never have guessed that it would smell so bad (based on the 2 part etex). It was also great meeting you at plugfest, you have an awesome googoo collection.   
 
There were a couple of big daddy's for sale on Ebay 
they were the black & yellow swirl, one sold for $257 & the other one sold for $275, unbelievable, I think I paid about $25 for my last one (15 years ago). Thanks again. 
		
		
		
		
		
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