Gooseberry Neck

[stripermagnet]

i think everyone should stop complaining about "spot specific" posts. honestly i doubt theres any spots left where only a handful of people could figure out that its a good idea to fish there. most people arent stupid. rocks + white water or sandbars or holes all = fish. its common sense if you have a honey hole where you stand on a specific rock or whatever thats different, but theres no secret beaches. and second, if anyone here can show up at a spot they've never fished in their lives and magically know the right tide, time of day, moon phase, weather, lure/bait, and presentation to use then congratulations youre the best fisherman in the world. and third, we all need to stop bad mouthing other peoples posts, its always the same crew and its annoying. if you dont like a post leave it alone

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by stripermagnet

i think everyone should stop complaining about "spot specific" posts. honestly i doubt theres any spots left where only a handful of people could figure out that its a good idea to fish there. most people arent stupid. rocks + white water or sandbars or holes all = fish. its common sense if you have a honey hole where you stand on a specific rock or whatever thats different, but theres no secret beaches. and second, if anyone here can show up at a spot they've never fished in their lives and magically know the right tide, time of day, moon phase, weather, lure/bait, and presentation to use then congratulations youre the best fisherman in the world. and third, we all need to stop bad mouthing other peoples posts, its always the same crew and its annoying. if you dont like a post leave it alone

In the Utopian world I might actually agree with a third of what you said. Certain places can only survive so much pressure. Some places can survive a lot more pressure, and some are impervious to the amount of "spot burning" that goes on. But where is it safe to draw that line? Posting spot specific info online doesn't always ruin a spot or cause a thousand people to go but SOMETIMES it does. Me, I want to err on the side of caution.

Spots can & should be shared, I just feel it should be in smaller groups, between people, in a club, or something. I don't think it is wise to mark specific stuff about locations in a historical and searchable database.

Stripermagnet, I realize that preventing detailed discussion on spots does not fit into your immediate wants but just keep in mind that it is the safe thing for the SPOT. When REPORTS and SPOTS mix, it can get ugly. Ask any of the Canal guys when their area gets juicy - and the Canal is probably the most "burned" spot in the Northeast.

[GonnaCatchABig1]

Originally Posted by JohnR

In the Utopian world I might actually agree with a third of what you said. Certain places can only survive so much pressure. Some places can survive a lot more pressure, and some are impervious to the amount of "spot burning" that goes on. But where is it safe to draw that line? Posting spot specific info online doesn't always ruin a spot or cause a thousand people to go but SOMETIMES it does. Me, I want to err on the side of caution.

Spots can & should be shared, I just feel it should be in smaller groups, between people, in a club, or something. I don't think it is wise to mark specific stuff about locations in a historical and searchable database.

Stripermagnet, I realize that preventing detailed discussion on spots does not fit into your immediate wants but just keep in mind that it is the safe thing for the SPOT. When REPORTS and SPOTS mix, it can get ugly. Ask any of the Canal guys when their area gets juicy - and the Canal is probably the most "burned" spot in the Northeast.

it's a tit for tat kinda deal. i honestly dont mind sharing info with guys while fishing. i tend to enjoy having other around while fishing. not only for security reasons... but ya need a witness when something cool happens right?
but then theres this scenario... you show up to a spot you frequent only to find.. a bunch of drunks with wallyworld gear casting over each other constantly. with the occasional person who fishes a plug like it were a chunk.
i dont mind ""elbow to elbow"" fishing so long as elbow to elbow means at least 10 ft each side and every one is able to cast in a straight line 95% of the time. and realizes who ever has a fish on has right of way.
unfortunately the latter rarely happens. cause guys with common courtesy will pass on crowded areas. it's just the worst when yer there by yourself.. and before you know scenario number 1 happens.

so. i pretty much stopped telling anyone anything.. unless they give me some decent info.. not that i catch anything anyway..

oh yeah just to add.. i dont think this was really a spot burn. buuuut the specific name thing throws up the red flags. we need to form some sort of system (that gets stickied) on how to ask for this type of info with out having to mention the specific name in the open. like for instance maybe be worded like "looking for info on parking at a spot in this (area here) please pm me if you are familiar with it" it would be slower.. but this whole "omg specific name of a place" stuff would be avoided.. i'm sure you guys can come up with something a bit better than that idea though.

[snake slinger]

Originally Posted by JohnR

In the Utopian world I might actually agree with a third of what you said. Certain places can only survive so much pressure. Some places can survive a lot more pressure, and some are impervious to the amount of "spot burning" that goes on. But where is it safe to draw that line? Posting spot specific info online doesn't always ruin a spot or cause a thousand people to go but SOMETIMES it does. Me, I want to err on the side of caution.

Spots can & should be shared, I just feel it should be in smaller groups, between people, in a club, or something. I don't think it is wise to mark specific stuff about locations in a historical and searchable database.

Stripermagnet, I realize that preventing detailed discussion on spots does not fit into your immediate wants but just keep in mind that it is the safe thing for the SPOT. When REPORTS and SPOTS mix, it can get ugly. Ask any of the Canal guys when their area gets juicy - and the Canal is probably the most "burned" spot in the Northeast.

well said john

[eelskimmer]

Just checked the overnight mail and spot burning is still a hot
topic. To Smokefish and LeCounts, I was only kidding--tongue
in cheek. To all the others who offered valuable advise both in
open and by PM many thanks. Sad to hear that walking the path
at night is hazardous due to needles and glass. But I would only
fish there in Spring and Fall (if I do) and avoid the Yahoos.

Will be on beach about 9:30AM Tomorrow scouting for an hour.
If youse are in neighborhood say hello and I would be delighted to
buy coffee and donuts at nearest Dunkee.

Again, many thanks.

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by stripermagnet

i think everyone should stop complaining about "spot specific" posts. honestly i doubt theres any spots left where only a handful of people could figure out that its a good idea to fish there. most people arent stupid. rocks + white water or sandbars or holes all = fish. its common sense if you have a honey hole where you stand on a specific rock or whatever thats different, but theres no secret beaches. and second, if anyone here can show up at a spot they've never fished in their lives and magically know the right tide, time of day, moon phase, weather, lure/bait, and presentation to use then congratulations youre the best fisherman in the world. and third, we all need to stop bad mouthing other peoples posts, its always the same crew and its annoying. if you dont like a post leave it alone

Sorry pal but maybe you should list all your spots, times, tides, and lures to use. I think it is very strange for a new comer to this site to come on and start changing the rules here, there was never spot talk here and there never should be. I find it very strange how you stand on this topic and you won't even list where you are from or your age.