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Old 04-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #1
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Obviously Mike they weren't aware of the statistics and overall damage that 5000lbs equals to.Not much in the big picture.Who's to say that most of the guys aren't keeping them on ice weighing them in then having bass for dinner.Personally I would.When put in the big picture it's not a slaughter at all.Where's that You tube video of that guy with the truck on the beach pulling his nets.That was a slaughter.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:27 PM   #2
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A. You just have to be registered to win the boat.

B. Commercially licensed fishermen should not be eligible to participate......but we have had this argument before.

C. All valid points Bob but to each his own I say!

I registered the first year and did not last year. I might this year......mostly because I like the pins you get for registering and a shot at winning a boat does not hurt! My plan when I entered the first season was to keep apprised of the standings as the season progressed and if I was lucky enough to catch a fish that might put me in the game......I would make that decision if and when the situation presented itself. I may register this year for the same 2 reasons I did the first year......the plan will be if I catch a trophy and I can release it with no problems......I will do that. If the fish has expired or is in tough shape ie it will not survive....in the box it goes and I will make the most of it.....weigh it in and have dinner! I only keep 2-3 fish in any season so I see no harm there.

PS- They update the website standings weekly....just like the Dream Boat/Fisherman contest.

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Old 04-12-2008, 06:59 PM   #3
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yeah- now we're TALKIN'..... which is exactly what I wanted to get from the guys in the tourny.

I'm not "against" the tournament.... I just want people to stop and think about their motivations for keeping/killing fish..... and YEAH commercial guys should be excluded (but thats another discussion).

so ask yourself- "If it wasn't for this tournament- would I keep this fish?"

or in other words- how many die-hard catch 'n release guys are now keeping fish they normally would put back in the water?????

no personal attacks here- MikeP I actually do know the rules (I entered myself in the first year...)

just food for thought, thats all.
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:35 PM   #4
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Actually, I appreciate this discussion. The way the rules were initially written, we would not have submitted a team. Over time the rules were tweaked to be better and a lot more conservation minded. As far as Tourneys go, this one got pretty good (at least a lot better) as people spoke here and in many other places, and OTW listened and proved that by significantly reducing the potential amount of fish entered.

Once the rules were changed for the better I asked what those in the forum felt about S-B entering a team. The response was generally positive to enter the tournament.

When we did, we also selectively chose as a group to consider fish of only 30#s or better to weigh in as a team, Sure, we could have weighed in 17#ers but chose not to do so. Persoanlly, I could have entered some decent size fish but did not because of out little side rule and the fact that it likely wouldn't count in the end (and a 29#er from shore does not a 30 make). In a nut shell, I have kept zero extra fish in this tourney than I otherwise would have kept due to my self imposed 30# minimum. I probably kept a couple less fish over the year as I didn't want to drag TWO fish back to the truck (and wifey was a little tweaked that I did not bring home more fillets).

A lot of other clubs are factoring this 30# limit as well in the club tourney.

As for the amount of bass that S-B (or the whole tourney) would weigh in -v- the amount coming in if not for the tourney I don't think is significant. All of Team S-B's fish last year was LESS than the equivalent of a good 3 hour window of fish caught on Narragansett Bay, or ONE commercial Rod & Reeler's take in Mass in ONE day.

Simply put, the weigh-ins for this tourney as it is written now is not significant compared to single events that will happen countless times all over the coast on a multitude of days.

It could be even that with OTW's tightening of the rules that a better appreciation and understanding of Striped Bass conservation may have been made to the masses.

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Old 04-12-2008, 09:23 PM   #5
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Well said, John. Like it or not however, the idea of keeping commercials out of this contest is impossible to enforce, even if that was the stated policy. There is NO WAY at present to tell if a person has a license to sell bass or not - unless he actually sells some, and then only varify-able long after the contest has ended (and the prizes awarded - what is OTW supposed to say? Gimme back the truck?!) when a list of those with commercial licenses may or may not be made available by the state. Think about it.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:42 PM   #6
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The state does not have a list of commercially licensed fishermen? I would think they do and that it is available to the public. If this is so then its just a matter of doing the cross checking to eject the comms from the tourney!

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Old 04-12-2008, 10:21 PM   #7
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Generally, I keep fish that are barely legal, 28" to 30", legal by State standards, but not legal by OTW rules. I would never embarass myself by weighing in a 14 lb bass anyway.

I personally don't eat large bass, as I think smaller bass taste better, BUT, I have enough people asking me for Striper steaks, that If I thought a fish had a chance to add points, it would not go uneaten.
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:39 PM   #8
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I'm glad that this team fromS-B and others has chosen to choose a "higher path" by only keeping fish greater than 30lbs..... but how many fish less than 40lbs were "in the money" last year (or the year before)?? why not consider making your personal/team threshold 40lbs then??

(I'm gonna look back myself now and see if this is true or not, so don't crucify me for this..... again, I'm just wondering/asking how many fish died just for a "points value" that otherwise woulda lived
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