Trophy fish

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

Soounds like Numbie's back on the soapbox again......................

would ya have us believe that everyone else is wrong,
and only THIS guy is right because he supports yer own agenda?

BassDawg....I don't use soap. My mother washed my mouth with it too much as a kid. I just rub my armpits with bullshiit each am. Works pretty well, but apparently you already know that. What obviously you don't know is that the guy who wrote the article got it published in Nature. No reason you would know (or care), but Nature is the world's premier peer reviewed scientific journal. Only the very best and most important science gets accepted for publication in it. Like when they find a cure for cancer, that is where it will be reported. .... Doesn't mean it is right,.....but it does mean that it represents THE BEST SCIENCE AVAILABLE, like it or not. "My agenda" is that I like to catch big fish. The more out there the better. I don't care about 80lb fish, but I think a slot limit requiring the 25-50's to go back would help all of us, even those with their head up their........Playboys.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by numbskull

No reason you would know (or care), but Nature is the world's premier peer reviewed scientific journal.

debatable, but to call it a respected journal is an ceratinly an understatement. It is peer reviewed, and that is key. I love seeing this type of work cited on the board!

A slot would be great. I don't know if it will ever fly in Rhodie or Mass, but it might if more and more science supports it.

The only thing I worry about is release mortality vs. size, depending on tackle, location etc.. some big fish probably don't make it if put back, IMHO...

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by numbskull

BassDawg.......but Nature is the world's premier peer reviewed scientific journal. Only the very best and most important science gets accepted for publication in it. Like when they find a cure for cancer, that is where it will be reported. Sorta like your ********** ******* *** *** ******** ** *******. Doesn't mean it is right,.....but it does mean that it represents THE BEST SCIENCE AVAILABLE, like it or not. "My agenda" is that I like to catch big fish. The more out there the better. I don't care about 80lb fish, but I think a slot limit requiring the 25-50's to go back would help all of us..............

WOW!

how's that script of chill pills holdin out, numbskull?

"best science available" ~sounds subject to change.
Science is much more subjective than you would imagine.

Follow the money, bro, and you'll be amazed. Who's funding the Good Dr Sighura? And since you are into analogies:

It's very similar to the so-called expert witnesses giving testimony in a murder case. Mountains of evidence are subject to interpretation, are they not? Just ask Marcia Clark and OJ....................

Besides ya still didn't answer my question so i'll ask it another way;
if you, Oak, Flaptail, John R, Tony O, and ITS all killed 2-50#'ers apiece this year, then how many of those killed's fellow yearmates would be left to proliferate the species? Does Dr Sighura, know? Anyone, Beuller, anyone from Woods Hole? Science seems rather subjective at this point, eh?

The other BIG issue i have with SCIENCE and its "numbers" is that by it's very nature it is a field that works in reverse to prove what is already taking place or an event that has already happened. While I QUITE agree that slot limits would be great and have been very effective in FL, and elsewhere, i contend that The Good Dr's study from Scripps seems to be too general and is probably a very sound documentation of something that we already know......................

Kill the breeders, kill the species......in a nutshell.

Funny thing is i agree to an extent, i just would like to see more poignant and exact numbers inre to MoSax, me brother, before promoting an Anti Trophy Agenda. Further, how many trophies actually get killed a year? Is it safe to assume that far more Cows get released and "get away" than the amount that actually hit the certified scales? I'm all for numbers, the more the merrier, imho it's still a little early to pull the plug on the Recreational Fishing Tournaments that align themselves with current FM guidelines.

also, in the future i'll thank you to keep any references to some imaginary girlfriend of mine OUT of our discussions, as my lovely wife would be none too appreciative of such tasteless banter. i get that you were speaking in the general sense of YOU, but she would not, "get it".

[Slipknot]

I entered in a soapbox derby once when I was a kid



It can only help the fish by releasing the larger fish. If you keep removing all the large fish, then the fish will onl;y grow to just enough of a size to keep reproducing and the 100 pound capability is severely diminished since the genes have not been passed on from other large fish capable to grow over 100 pounds.

I have let many large go free, I have also kept my share of large, but only about 3-4 fish over 30 pounds. I try to revive them now. I hope it helps.

Some people will keep on killing for food or tournaments and I have no problem with that. I worry about myself, and whoever is fishing with me makes their own decision too.