Neighbor in Chatham Squatting in our house. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Sluggoslinger · 05-01-2008, 08:53 PM

I work in real estate so i am familiar with the laws. As soon as my father accepts money from him he becomes a tenant and then things fall into a gray area and removing him will be difficult.

Trust me, i've tried to take this into my hands and begged them to let me just do it from out here but they are stubborn. After sunday if he is still there then we'll take it up a notch.

THe worst part is this guy is sleeping in my bed and my wife doesn't even want to be in the room anymore after that. what a pain in the a$$.

Raven · 05-01-2008, 08:56 PM

yeah i can dig it...so we'll gut that friggan room, re-rock it ,mud it paint it and it'll be virginal

The Iceman 6 · 05-02-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

yeah i can dig it...so we'll gut that friggan room, re-rock it ,mud it paint it and it'll be virginal

Right on Raven!

davisd · 05-04-2008, 07:12 AM

Get him outta there is he gone yet????????

seadevil · 05-04-2008, 08:55 AM

You know before you go calling the cops there is a little thing on Cape here that is called reasoning! A guy that has been forced to become homeless due to the rich people shoving the poor out of this place makes me wanna puke

I am not saying that I agree with what the guy is doing and I hate cats and despise poodles but I can imagine if I were in this dudes shoes, I would probably be tramatized
and adding cops and lawers to an already messy situation may cause dude to pop. Furthermore for the last few years I have seen people on the two more popular striper sites raise a bunch of money for people they don't even know, but they fish so that is okay, but this guy does not fish so the above party's think they should lynch him. Gimme a break simple resolve tell your father some communication skills will be key find out how much money this guy has got. Help him into a storage unit and then help him call a few of the churches in chatham they have helped many people before in crisis raise money to have a place to live even if it is a motel it is better than him messin with your stuff if you go playing hardball with the guy it may give him grounds to break a rod or god knows what I don't know the situation at hand 100% so don't be pissed if I am out of line just sounds to me like this guy has had it pretty rough and their is easier ways than to deal with the police just my $0.02

spence · 05-04-2008, 09:04 AM

Point taken, but in this case it would appear as though the person is knowingly taking advantage of the situation. Pretty soon you're down the slippery slope where it's ok to steal because you don't have food for your kids.

-spence

Raven · 05-04-2008, 09:18 AM

the least amount of force as is necessary......... Always!

it is reasonably assured that the offer and IDEA of a one night Stay was incorrectly dis communicated.

Good idea's on the storage unit ...give pets to the sister. $50 -$75 a week...for a mid sized space.

Swimmer · 05-04-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Point taken, but in this case it would appear as though the person is knowingly taking advantage of the situation. Pretty soon you're down the slippery slope where it's ok to steal because you don't have food for your kids.

-spence

WTF this is what I referred to Spence.

Swimmer · 05-04-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by seadevil

You know before you go calling the cops there is a little thing on Cape here that is called reasoning! A guy that has been forced to become homeless due to the rich people shoving the poor out of this place makes me wanna puke

I am not saying that I agree with what the guy is doing and I hate cats and despise poodles but I can imagine if I were in this dudes shoes, I would probably be tramatized
and adding cops and lawers to an already messy situation may cause dude to pop. Furthermore for the last few years I have seen people on the two more popular striper sites raise a bunch of money for people they don't even know, but they fish so that is okay, but this guy does not fish so the above party's think they should lynch him. Gimme a break simple resolve tell your father some communication skills will be key find out how much money this guy has got. Help him into a storage unit and then help him call a few of the churches in chatham they have helped many people before in crisis raise money to have a place to live even if it is a motel it is better than him messin with your stuff if you go playing hardball with the guy it may give him grounds to break a rod or god knows what I don't know the situation at hand 100% so don't be pissed if I am out of line just sounds to me like this guy has had it pretty rough and their is easier ways than to deal with the police just my $0.02

Guy asks if he can stay for the night, THE NIGHT. He drank himself into his divorce it sounds like, and drank himself out of his house. So while you justify his failure to be rational and healthy, and blame his problems on unknown rich people I think you should invite the lawbreaker to your house for THE NIGHT. Nobody here takes any pleasure in beating up on anyone for any reason. Even Spence agrees.

spence · 05-04-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

Even Spence agrees.

WTF?

-spence

seadevil · 05-04-2008, 11:27 AM

Apparently misunderstood! I am sure the guy has ears and is capable of listening, he is not the only one on cape being screwed by forclosures just so you know. All I tried to say is that there is help available to people in need that does'nt require losing all of your stuff and staying in the clink. Never once stated that the neighbor had any thing to do with the guys misfortunes just to maybee take a step back and re-evaluate the big picture rather than kicking him down in the dirt farther than he is already that's all be mad if you want to just a different approach

Swimmer · 05-04-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by seadevil

Apparently misunderstood! I am sure the guy has ears and is capable of listening, he is not the only one on cape being screwed by forclosures just so you know. All I tried to say is that there is help available to people in need that does'nt require losing all of your stuff and staying in the clink. Never once stated that the neighbor had any thing to do with the guys misfortunes just to maybee take a step back and re-evaluate the big picture rather than kicking him down in the dirt farther than he is already that's all be mad if you want to just a different approach

I didn't misunderstand you at all. Like I said invite him to your house.

seadevil · 05-04-2008, 11:55 AM

I would but it is being forclosed so i am gonna stay at your house

Raven · 05-01-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sluggoslinger

who's been sleeping in my bed?.

oh man oh man....sounds just like goldilox and the three bears

Raven · 05-01-2008, 09:01 PM

balboa island hmmm sounds familiar,,,

i must be thinkin of balboa park and or other San diegan islands tho

Raven · 05-01-2008, 09:02 PM

do you have a short little guy in a tux
that says boss boss the plane

.......................................the plane

Sluggoslinger · 05-01-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

balboa island hmmm sounds familiar,,,

i must be thinkin of balboa park and or other San diegan islands tho

its in newport beach south of LA. Its just a little island in the harbor. the bridge is about 100 yards...

http://maps.google.com/maps?rls=com....num=1&ct=title

GattaFish · 05-02-2008, 08:44 AM

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The worst part is this guy is sleeping in my bed and my wife doesn't even want to be in the room anymore after that. what a pain in the a$$.

This is your biggest problem,,,,, and the most frustrating one,,, and I really see where she is coming from,,,,

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Originally Posted by zacs

i highly doubt it. when you are ready to get him out of there, you tell him nicely to leave, if he doesn't go, you call the cops, tell em he's trespassing, end of story.

What would possibly make you think the police would no longer have jurisdiction? Its his house, there is no lease, and the guy is trespassing. Even if you let him stay today, if you ask him to leave tomorrow he is trespassing.

Wait until monday and then go kick the guy out. End of story.

Careful.....Its not the end of story anymore.

Lets just hope he leaves and does not put up a stink,,,,, which I think will be the case,,,, BUT, if not

Just so you know you do not need a lease to be a tenant. Nor is there a min time frame for living as one. How long has this guy been LIVING there? couple weeks now ?

And since his dad said he could stay longer the guy now has been granted an At Will Oral Tenancy and has a right to LIVE there, in the house alone, not stay with them, until Sunday. Unfortunately this house does become this other guys shelter until Sunday. If he pushes it he could possibly make his dad follow the laws of eviction. I think all he has to do is claim it as his shelter. It would depend on the Mass Laws.

He was trespassing,,, not anymore... Now he is living in the house.

It really depends on what the guy says (claims) and how the police want to handle it,,,, if he does not leave.. If they say he has to have him evicted then they only have jurisdiction to follow the eviction, not just go in and drag the guy out because it is the right thing to do.

Unfortunately Slinger's father has a heart of gold and this guy has already taken advantage of it,,,, It is a shame,, the right thing of kicking the guy out on the street ASAP may not be the legal thing anymore.

Raven · 05-02-2008, 08:55 AM

i'll knock him out and carry him outta the house...

wrecked ankle and all....

the police can arrest me if they want to...afterwards...

man this thread boils ............my Scottish blood...

hidden note below
_ err sorry ...i've been under allot of stress lately
and i'm ready to explode on somebody or some thing...

GattaFish · 05-02-2008, 11:24 AM

Raven.......

I totally agree,,,,, I like your style too,,,,,

and no question if he does not leave on Sunday this is the right thing to do,,,,, hmmmmm,,,,ok,, well maybe the carrying the guy out part will have to be enough,,,

funny note,,,, just try to go fishing ASAP,,,, It should help,,,

I am pretty sure this will work out ok,,, I think the guy is honestly just stuck,,, It sure is frustrating to hear in the mean time though,,, and its not even my family,,, If it was I might just lose my mind,,, So Slinger is handling it better than I would....

I am also not trying to be the devils advocate, only trying to let people know that when the law gets involved sometimes it has a weird way of making things tougher and costing lots of $$$...