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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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05-11-2008, 10:45 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Pssst---the Honda and Nissan hybrids ARE American cars 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-11-2008, 03:08 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Pssst---the Honda and Nissan hybrids ARE American cars 
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I don't understand that .. My bud says his Toyota is an american car . Is this like the Abu assembled in Sweeden via Tiawan.. So confusing whats what ? Who reaps the profits ? Japan ? Is it true they are buying up all our farm land ? Not to get off on a tangent..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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05-11-2008, 07:11 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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thanks for this ..
http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188
things aren't always as they appear .. talk about sugar coating ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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05-11-2008, 08:06 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Auto parts come from all over the world. Even American cars are composed of parts from all over the world. Toyota Camrys are assemled in Kentucky (I think the Corolla/Matrix/Pontiac Vibe are assembled in California). Nissan Altimas are assembled in Smyrna, Tennessee. Hondas are asssembled in Indiana. Some Fords are assembled in Mexico. Ford also owns Jaguar and Land Rover. Chrysler is 100% foreign owned, by Daimler-Benz. GM has a corporate partnership with Toyota, which is why the Pontiac Vibe is a Toyota Matrix sold under one of GMs divisions. Ford used to--and may still--have a partnership with Mazda. What is an "American" car and what is a "foreign" car isn't as easy as looking at the logo. Many "American" cars are built in Canada and Mexico--by non-union workers. Some "foreign" cars are built in the US, in UAW plants (not every foreign car maker's plant in the US is unionized, but some are).
Profits? Some profits are reinvested. That helps the local economy where the plants are. In public corporations, some are distributed to stockholders. Even if there are no dividends paid, profits help increase the share value of stock, which benefits shareholders. The manufacturers also pay property taxes on the plant and land, which also helps the local economy. Some profits do leave the US, but then again, that's also the case with Chrysler.
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Originally Posted by Tagger
I don't understand that .. My bud says his Toyota is an american car . Is this like the Abu assembled in Sweeden via Tiawan.. So confusing whats what ? Who reaps the profits ? Japan ? Is it true they are buying up all our farm land ? Not to get off on a tangent..
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-12-2008, 08:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
I don't understand that .. My bud says his Toyota is an american car . Is this like the Abu assembled in Sweeden via Tiawan.. So confusing whats what ? Who reaps the profits ? Japan ? Is it true they are buying up all our farm land ? Not to get off on a tangent..
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What mike said is true. The way the American co's (Gm et al) are behind is in design and engineering. Fro some reason the japanese in particular design reliable cars and have the foresight to try to sell hybrids. At the same time the americans were making bigger and bigger trucks. Really, if you think about honda designing the insight and toyota the prius at the same time ford is going with the excursion it says alot. Americans are starting to get it together, but they are still using old japanese technology. The ford escape hybrid is old toyota technology that toyota has replaced. I hope the Americans start to lead again someday soon.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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05-13-2008, 03:42 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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You can tell if a car was assembled in Japan by looking at the VIN #.
It will have a J in front of the #., at least upto 2004 models.
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" Choose Life "
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05-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
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LEAN MANUFACTURING Toyota can design and bring a new model to market in half the time.
Toyota is selling worldwide, the rest of the world wants economy, US wants POWER and SIZE.
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“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
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05-14-2008, 06:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
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The new mileage standards that the US comp. were moaning about are already met by Honda's fleet. The most popular US veh is a Ford pick up.
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05-14-2008, 09:18 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
The new mileage standards that the US comp. were moaning about are already met by Honda's fleet. The most popular US veh is a Ford pick up.
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at 11 mpg.
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