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05-14-2008, 11:20 AM
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Here's a thought..... Since people have been catching (and killing) sharks for food and fun, we had already set the stage for this type of explosive growth of seal population. Secondly, since"we" had enected strict rules for the harvest of specific fish species, we allowed those species to make somewhat of a comeback, providing plenty of feeding opportunities for the seals. (see the vicious circle?)
If the seals are not a completely indigenous species 'round these parts, but more of a migrating species, then why not push them back towards a migratory lifestyle..... by allowing culling of the heards.
If the seals feel threatened, they should leave the area, and if they are threatened enough, maybe leave for good.
Think about it: Exactly what purpose do the seals fill in our watery environment? At least the sharks help clean the ocean of dead/dying animals. When was the last time you saw a shark attack a fish on your line or heard of seals doing ANYTHING except looking cute with those puppy-dog eyes?
All the "touchy-feely" tree-huggin, PETA-lovin weirdos will be singing a different song when the seals start wiping out ground fish along their favorite "private beaches" and the seals take over the beach and turn it into a festering cesspool. This is our real-life "nature-gone-wild" scenario, and we can't do a thing (legally).
I wonder what grilled seal taste like?
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05-14-2008, 11:37 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
All the "touchy-feely" tree-huggin, PETA-lovin weirdos will be singing a different song when the seals start wiping out ground fish along their favorite "private beaches" and the seals take over the beach and turn it into a festering cesspool.
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We already beat the seals to that.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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05-15-2008, 07:47 AM
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
All the "touchy-feely" tree-huggin, PETA-lovin weirdos will be singing a different song when the seals start wiping out ground fish along their favorite "private beaches" and the seals take over the beach and turn it into a festering cesspool.
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Originally Posted by likwid
We already beat the seals to that.
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Likwid, maybe you haven't noticed Pleasant Bay and P-Town harbor, I understand your point though, but the seals have a LARGE part in the loss of flounder in Pleasant bay. And I don't like swimming in seal poop anymore than anyone else
We have to ask ourselves who is more important in the food chain, seals or us? I know which way I lean.
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05-15-2008, 08:57 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
We have to ask ourselves who is more important in the food chain, seals or us? I know which way I lean.
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In the grand scheme of things? They are.
Fish are a luxury for you.
This isn't SE Asia where you catch a fish to feed your family for 3 days.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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05-15-2008, 09:07 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
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To slip thats true likwid, but seals are having an impact on commercial fisheries, and that is not a luxury.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-15-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
In the grand scheme of things? They are.
Fish are a luxury for you.
This isn't SE Asia where you catch a fish to feed your family for 3 days.
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not yet
but if we keep going away from producing food, then we will be in trouble as a nation.
I find the deceasing farming in the country scary. We should be producing more food not less.
What purpose do seals on Cape Cod serve? are they food for other animals? no, they're poop is food for cod which just gives them worms. They just eat everything in sight and cause more problems than they are worth and you or anyone else will never change my mind, they can survive somewhere else and contribute to their grand scheme. I can easily fish elsewhere for my luxury as you call it , and I can buy fish at the market since I can afford it but I choose to catch my own sometimes. If we are forced to share the beach with those bacteria dirty animals, then so be it.
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05-15-2008, 09:14 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
What purpose do seals on Cape Cod serve?
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They are part of the ecosystem.
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are they food for other animals?
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makos, great whites, porbeagels.
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They just eat everything in sight and cause more problems than they are worth and you or anyone else will never change my mind, they can survive somewhere else and contribute to their grand scheme.
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They've existed like this in Maine and I don't hear mainers complaining about them. They're EVERYWHERE in downeast maine, always have been.
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I can easily fish elsewhere for my luxury as you call it
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It *is* a luxury though. You're not starving, you don't HAVE to fish. You won't go hungry if you DON'T fish. You blow hundreds of dollars on making plugs and van staals and whatnot. You don't get up in the morning and say "if I don't go fishing my family will starve today."
Everything you've said here could be said about humans anyways.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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05-15-2008, 09:18 AM
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They just declared Polar Bears endangered. They eat seals. I see a solution. Ship a few (tens of) thousand north to Canada and put them with the Polar Bears as the only obstacle between them and the sea. Nature will sort the rest.
Besides, it would be an obscure revenge for the bass demolished in the New England Aquarium Big Dig Massacre
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05-15-2008, 09:30 AM
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ok, about sharks, I'll rephrase the question. Is there a predator that can come close to controlling the seal population on the cape? a dozen or so loses per year to sharks does not qualify in my opinion.
I'm not saying kill them all like that Monomy seagull episode back a couple decades ago. But they're numbers could certainly use some thinning before all the fish are gone and then they will definately leave. 10,000+ seals in the area is a bit much can't you admit that as a human who also fishes?
Polar bears are starving, feed them a seal or 100, good idea.
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