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Old 06-12-2008, 09:36 PM   #31
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missing angler information

For those of you in Maine check this link out. It goes to the DMR and is for an angler logbook. I fill one out each year and it takes about 3 minutes to fill out after fishing.
http://www.maine.gov/dmr/recreational/logbooksurvey.htm

Sorry for you guys in Mass....our socialist governer is pushing hard for a saltwater fishing tax as well......right in the pooper
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:53 PM   #32
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Karl. I haven't bought a freshy license in 10 years, My clamming permits are only 6 bucks , I think, and Tony does a grand job of managing the greatest flats in the World. And I'm just this close to driving the beaches without a permit, 150 bucks and I've been out twice since. Look , I don't drive on vegetation, I don't climb hills, I don't run over birds( and I've seen evidence of that , and it makes me sick), so what's the gripe with me and other guys like myself who just want to fish? What did we do to deserve being "fined" on a yearly basis? I just don't get it. It's never going to end, the pocket picking ,until we somehow make it end. So what do we do?

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Old 06-12-2008, 09:58 PM   #33
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Yeah they need the money from us fishers

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb.../BIZ/806120309

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Old 06-13-2008, 01:50 AM   #34
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday June 12, 2008

MA Salt Water Fishing Registry (aka: License) Process to Begin
A statement from the Massachusetts Striped Bass Association

This morning, in newspapers across the state, it is being reported
that beginning in 2009, the federal government has announced a plan
through NOAA/Fisheries to institute a recreational angler registry in
states that do not have a salt water angler registration (read:
license), and this includes MA. This action is the result of a
requirement in the Magnuson-Stevens Reauthorization Act passed in
congress last year and has been anticipated for some time. This
announcement will without a doubt trigger the formal process of MA
considering developing a salt water fishing license.

There are many unanswered questions and issues involved in and related
to the upcoming process and MSBA has been preparing our involvement
for over a year. Over the past winter MSBA approached both the head of the MA DMF Sport Fishing Program, Dr. Mike
Armstrong and MA DMF Director Paul Diodati and suggested that the DMF
not wait to be forced into this process by a federal proposal and be
proactive and convene a committee of recreational fishing
representatives to explore options for MA recreational anglers. I am
happy to report that last week, MSBA was invited to participate in
just such a committee. MSBA President Bill Prodouz has appointed MSBA
Past President and Gov't Affairs Officer Patrick Paquette to represent
and also educate and inform the MSBA membership throughout this process.

Historically, MSBA has been opposed to a Salt Water Fishing License
and that position will not change without a vote of the MSBA
Membership. Conversations with and between members both on and off
the floor of MSBA monthly meetings indicates the MSBA membership is
open minded to some sort of registry/license if it contained certain
details that would benefit our fishing community and would not result
in just another tax. Being affiliated nationally with the
Recreational Fishing Alliance also has enabled MSBA to learn about
registry/license details that have and have not worked in other
states. In the coming months, MSBA will communicate accurate
information to our membership via our newsletter and website
www.msba.net and will undergo the process of making decisions and
taking positions. As always, MSBA is prepared for the coming process
and will help lead the MA recreational fishing community through the
upcoming process.

One note of caution: In the coming days and weeks there will be a
great deal of speculation, rumor, confusion and mis-information
written in newspapers and on the internet about the "pending"
registry/license and related processes. MSBA urges all MA
recreational anglers to avoid joining the inevitable emotional roller
coaster and resist the urge to react to every bit of information. Our
state has a fifty plus year history of organized recreational fishing
organizations and the best way to address the issues is through these
organizations that have the experience and relationships needed to
navigate through the political process we now face. In addition to
participating on the MA DMF committee mentioned above, MSBA has
already taken action to provide our membership with accurate
information. At the MSBA membership meeting on June 25th, in addition
to the monthly entertainment, this month supplied by Armand Tetreault
of Rhode Island Poppers, MSBA will shorten it's regular business
meeting in order to hear a 20 minute presentation, without debate,
from the federal agencies developing the angler registration program
announced today.

For more information, attend MSBA monthly meetings, monitor
www.msba.net, read the MSBA monthly newsletter or contact MSBA Gov't
Affairs Officer Patrick Paquette (BasicPAtrick@aol.com).

"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)

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Old 06-13-2008, 04:44 AM   #35
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It is what it is. What was once free, isn't anymore. Anyone can say whatever, and justify it anyway they want, but it's all about the buck.
And you're prolly right, the next thing will be a tax on the air we breath.
But ya know what? We allowed this to happen. We just lost our focus.

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Old 06-13-2008, 11:45 AM   #36
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[QUOTE=Karl F;

Fred.. 5 bucks for a resident clam lis. in Truro.. shhhh... don't tell your warden, but most of the other cape towns went from 5 bucks to 20 or 25 last year... ya know the mentality down here.. monkey see, monkey do.... wont be long



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in the fine print.the towns are allowed to charge 5 times more to the out of towners[comm. anyways]200.00 townie..1000.00 non-townie....but then this town did away with freebies to anyone over 72....butt wipes!

then the town was going to double the fee for the comm. trash haulers and they put such a stink that the town said ok..we'll just up the reg. folks dump fee's to make up the difference....

don't blame folks for making nite time dump runs...its fun calling the town to come pick up some trash...gets them off they a$$ and doing something for a change.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #37
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And there lies our problem, we'd all rather hang separately than together. Each swinging from our own tree, some cedar, some maple and on and on. Oh, yeah, what shall the rope be made of? Hemp, nylon, silk? How far off the ground? This is how I see it today, everyone has their own opinion, even if they have to invent some minutia to support it.
I agree. likwid, we just can't seem to sing from the same page. We've been divided and conquered by our own government.
We've been divided and conquored as outdoorsmen, that's the problem. I fish, but don't spear fish; I bowhunt, but don't use a gun, I hunt with a bolt-action rifle, not a semi; I fish from the rocks, not the beach, etc., etc., etc.

Well, we've made our bed, now we have to sleep in it. Is it more important to get some relaxation or to stand shoulder to shoulder with your brethern? We all know the answer.

98% of gun owners aren't in members of the NRA because half of them have guns that are rusting away in a gun case under the bed that have been forgoten and the other half think that the goverment is going to stop before "their" guns are made illegal.

Any goverment action against any of us should cause immediate action from all of us. But . . . we're all too comfortable for that. There's too much to lose.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:02 PM   #38
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We've been divided and conquored as outdoorsmen, that's the problem. I fish, but don't spear fish; I bowhunt, but don't use a gun, I hunt with a bolt-action rifle, not a semi; I fish from the rocks, not the beach, etc., etc., etc.
Partially, you've separated yourself from EVERYONE outdoors.
Not just hunters, not just other fishing groups, but everyone who spends time in the woods, or the beach, on a river, or anywhere that isn't a concrete jungle.

Everyone is out there to enjoy themselves one way or another and if there's one thing we can agree on, its how terribly we all are being "managed".

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