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06-13-2008, 06:31 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
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25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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06-13-2008, 06:39 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Southern NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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Its a decent fish Jess and one that did`nt get away  .
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Good health and family
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06-13-2008, 06:52 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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Oh I apologize, I forgot some people on the site s#@t 50's and got tired of 60's the other day. You should slam him for boga'ing a baby fish like that.
ps: nice socks. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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06-15-2008, 03:32 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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you need to build some credibility up. A guy fishing for 2 years from the surf and getting several 30s and losing a 60 just doesnt sit right with me. If I remember correctly, you got a new camera this year? Lets see some pics of you with a small 25 or larger and I'll forever shut my mouth.
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06-15-2008, 03:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: cape cod
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If ya lost the fish...how do ya know it was a sixty 
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a fifty before I go!!!!!!
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06-15-2008, 05:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Manhattan
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I have a spot that features heavy structure in shallow water (6' at low tide...) that ONLY works in early July- early Aug. when water temp there is at least 68- 72 degrees...
Have taken bass to 36 lbs. there in broad daylight on bunker (pogy), live & chunks... & lost much bigger ones to the structure!
Thus: I've long ago given up the notion that (big) Bass only want cool water! 
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06-16-2008, 06:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
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A fish in hand is worth more then a whole school in the water reguardless of it's size....people put to much emphasis on size..it's all about getting out and enjoying ones self.
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06-16-2008, 10:53 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrstriper
If ya lost the fish...how do ya know it was a sixty 
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I have lost more sixties than I can shake a stick at.........go figure. Then I wake up, and can't remember what beach I was on. 
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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06-16-2008, 11:29 AM
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Cape Crusader
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ashland, MA
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Three thoughts:
1) Nice fish
2) If the real "book" is ever written, it will say things like, "sometimes bass like warm water, sometimes cold" and "sometimes they like shallow water, sometimes deep"
3) Regarding size of fish.....come on. Of the seven categories of large fish quoted in the earlier post, there are three of those categories where there is a distinct possibility that nobody on the entire East Coast will catch a fish that large in a given year. (70-80, 80-90, 90+) For the overwhelming majority of surfbound anglers a 30 lb+ fish is the fish of the season, if not a lifetime. If this forum becomes a place where a 25 lb fish (during the day in shallow water, no less) can't be acknowleged as a great catch and a "big" fish, I think posts are losing touch with reality. Or maybe we need a new forum for people who only target fish over 60 lbs. 
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06-16-2008, 11:34 AM
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Moderator
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Location: Marshfield, MA
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we have had threads on what is considered a big fish...Im gonna start a new one, so we don't derail just-in-time's thread too much..
nice catch  ...I'm always happy with 25lb bass...
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06-16-2008, 11:37 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzseeker
If this forum becomes a place where a 25 lb fish (during the day in shallow water, no less) can't be acknowleged as a great catch and a "big" fish, I think posts are losing touch with reality. Or maybe we need a new forum for people who only target fish over 60 lbs. 
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I think the poster in question has no sense of reality (fsihing) and believes that by diminishing others catches, he gains membership into an elite class of fisherman.
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06-16-2008, 11:33 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
I have lost more sixties than I can shake a stick at.........go figure. Then I wake up, and can't remember what beach I was on. 
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All on 8wt with a 10lb tippet absolutely crushing the IGFA record right? 
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06-16-2008, 10:18 AM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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so how many 25# or larger fish have you landed??
compared to a 2.5# schoolie, 25# is a big fish. 10x bigger.
compared to a 50, it is still a decent size fish, only 1/2 as big, but not 1/10.
I am very happy to catch 25# fish, and consider it a very good trip. I know most others do as well.....
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06-16-2008, 02:16 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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You are kidding me, right? (should just hit the ignore button now...)
I, for one, would like to see some pics of your sizable fish, posted here, in a thread of your own.
For me, a 19# fish can be a big fish, when I have been fortunate to get it after catching many smaller, even sub-legal fish. It's all relative. We're not all destined to get a 50, 40, or even a 30# fish.
All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats.
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06-16-2008, 05:51 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Centerville
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All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats. 
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06-16-2008, 07:07 PM
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Scarecrow
Join Date: May 2003
Location: bedford ma
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Yikes! I've been doing this for a while and a 12-15 lb fish gets me all giddy
especially if it has teeth
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06-17-2008, 05:02 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
You are kidding me, right? (should just hit the ignore button now...)
I, for one, would like to see some pics of your sizable fish, posted here, in a thread of your own.
For me, a 19# fish can be a big fish, when I have been fortunate to get it after catching many smaller, even sub-legal fish. It's all relative. We're not all destined to get a 50, 40, or even a 30# fish.
All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats.
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i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.
and yes, i have caught several in that size range and 1 fish over 30#,
with this only being my third full year of surfcasting................
not chest beating, only offering my opinion. for me large does not start
until 30# and up, ask around ~~i think others would agree
while i respect your opinion, nightfighter, i will respectfully disagree
with your relativity/subjectivity interpretation of what is LAHHHGE.
my point is stated in Slingah's new Thread upon the subject.
how's yer neck these days?
still mighty finicky on the Other Cape.
hoping for some heat to provide for sum settling in up North.
seen some schoolies being caught at the Mags at first light, Sun.
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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06-17-2008, 07:33 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Yep, always a good time on the goodskiff lollipop. Very relaxing no stress, no pressure atmosphere. Just casting plugs for fish to eat  and good times.
Warm water, cool water,dark water ,deep water, shallow water, it's all good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.
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you wouldn't?
well big and large are 2 different catagories according to the other thread and your reply. You said since when is a 25 lb bass big, I guess you need to change your definition you wrote yourself then. If you want to be taken seriously, you may want to be consistent with your posts. Some people are nit pickers
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Originally Posted by BassDawg
my own scale goes a li'l sumthin' like this:
0" - 28" ;;;; schoolie
28" - 30#;;; rats to big bass
30# - 40#;; LAHHHHGE
40# - 50#;; SLOB
50# - 60#;; TROPHY
60# - 70#;; COW
70# - 80#;; IGFA World Record
80# - 90#;; MONSTAHH
90# - 100#; FISH OF A LIFETIME
those are the goals for me, so far so good,
and i LOVE the challenge and the mindset that
is required to not settle, and TO go for sum Big Gurls.
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rats to [U]big[U] bass = 28" to 30 lbs. I think 25 lbs falls in that area towards the upper end and a 25 pound bass is no slouch so if it can't be a rat, it must be big.
conclusion = 25 pound bass are big
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06-17-2008, 07:44 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.
and yes, i have caught several in that size range and 1 fish over 30#,
with this only being my third full year of surfcasting................
not chest beating, only offering my opinion. for me large does not start
until 30# and up, ask around ~~i think others would agree
while i respect your opinion, nightfighter, i will respectfully disagree
with your relativity/subjectivity interpretation of what is LAHHHGE.
my point is stated in Slingah's new Thread upon the subject.
how's yer neck these days?
still mighty finicky on the Other Cape.
hoping for some heat to provide for sum settling in up North.
seen some schoolies being caught at the Mags at first light, Sun.
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hmmm, last time it was several over 30.....show us the pics
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06-17-2008, 05:45 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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nitpicking WELCOMED!!!
thanks for your interest, slip
just to clarify my, and that is the key word here, my
category that seems to befuddle you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
rats to big bass means simply that there are two ends of the spectrum within that particular classification.
imho, 28# - 30# is a big bass and not 25, 26, nor 27#.
and if you were paying attention i began the
Lahhhge category at 30#+,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nitpick if you must,
it's only an opinion and personal goals that i've set for myself
RIJIMMY,
still crying for pix of every feesh i've ever landed???
have you got pix of ALL of yer Stripers???
this year there will be plenty to post, the wifey and i
gave ourselves the Stylus 790SW for Xmas last year  .
shore hope i'll be able to fill the memory card, the fridge,
and some certified scales up around the Cape of Ann ~way 
digital should at least make it more frequent, and better quality.
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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06-18-2008, 10:40 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
RIJIMMY,
still crying for pix of every feesh i've ever landed???
have you got pix of ALL of yer Stripers???
this year there will be plenty to post, the wifey and i
gave ourselves the Stylus 790SW for Xmas last year  .
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pixs will give you credibility. IMHO you have none and should build some up before making the claims and statement that you do.
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06-17-2008, 06:03 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
25#'er is a BIG Bass???
since WHEN???
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OK, but your question was about big bass in this thread
the one about large is slinah's thread
so in conclusion, 25 lb bass is a big bass, don't you agree now?
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06-17-2008, 06:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?
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Why even try.........
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06-17-2008, 06:33 PM
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Registered User
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BTW my rating system has only one level for this: fun.
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Why even try.........
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06-17-2008, 06:35 PM
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Registered User
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I would take that fun all day!!!!!!!!!!
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a fifty before I go!!!!!!
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06-17-2008, 07:44 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?
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I'd rate it as a really stupid fish if YOU caught it.
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06-18-2008, 10:30 AM
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Registered User
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When seeking whale oil I consider a 25 ft specimen large especially from my dory with harpoon made in Old Rochester.
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06-18-2008, 10:32 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?
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Shirakasan
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06-19-2008, 02:54 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
OK, but your question was about big bass in this thread
the one about large is slinah's thread
so in conclusion, 25 lb bass is a big bass, don't you agree now?
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sorry, slip!
but that was more of a rhetorical
rather than a direct question,,,,,,,,,,
NOPE, to answer yer question!!
it takes 30# to begin to be large, and
i have a very small window for "big".
just a common and easier amount than say 35#+
as the benchmark for Large; because if you do make 35#
the cut off, then it throws everything off from a tenpound
classification system perspective.
however, in the interest of compromise and reasonable discussion,
if we were to agree on BIG as being from 25# to 35#, LAHHHGE from 35# to 50#,
TROPHY from 50# to 78.8#, IGFA from 78.9# to 95#, and MONSTAH from 95#+,
then that does allow for some more wiggle room at the bottom
and it enhances the middle and the top, as well.
simple and clean, and a little more inclusive..................
00# to 24# ~~ rats/dinks/schoolies
25# to 35# ~~ Biggs
35# to 50# ~~ Lahhhge
50# to 78# ~~ Trophy
79# to 95# ~~ IGFA
95# to ???? ~~ Monstah
and i would agree with Nebe, that anything over 50#,
is a Fish of Lifetime. very interesting opinions and thoughts, gents.
hope to be notching sum  bigger  ones this year, and climbing
the scale with consistent and larger catches and releases...........
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Tight Lines, and
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