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Old 06-19-2008, 09:34 AM   #1
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You don't see the government raising the minimum wage? Or businesses or companies giving "cost of living" increases commensurate with the way the cost of living is going up so rapidly right now....as they them selves can't afford it!! In my opinion you have not seen the worst of this......wait until the unemployment rate skyrockets due to layoffs and businesses going under???

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Old 06-19-2008, 10:35 AM   #2
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Larry, I don't think you really understand how bad the corn crop is going to be this year. It's not just the floods, but there's been so much rain farmers haven't been able to plant or cultivate, and when they have the crops are growing like crap.

About a third of the corn crop goes to ethanol, which is used as an additive just about everywhere.

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Old 06-19-2008, 10:51 AM   #3
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Spence....you are pretty quick!? THATS MY POINT!!! Take the ethynol out of the gas......it would solve alot of problems!!!! Not the least of which is the dependence on corn for fuel......never mind the dependence on fuel itself!!!!!!! It would also solve alot of mechanical/repair problems folks are having with their cars, boats, lawn mowers....anything powered by gasoline!!!!!

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Old 06-19-2008, 11:00 AM   #4
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Methyl alcohol, or methanol, can oxygenate gas as well as ethyl alcohol.

You can make methanol from rotting garbage

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Old 06-19-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:53 AM   #6
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If you ask me, this country needs more solar and wind power and we need more Nuke plants. From there, we all go electric with everything- cars, heat, etc...

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Old 06-19-2008, 12:12 PM   #7
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If you ask me, this country needs more solar and wind power and we need more Nuke plants. From there, we all go electric with everything- cars, heat, etc...

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Old 07-01-2008, 10:11 AM   #8
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Larry, I don't think you really understand how bad the corn crop is going to be this year. It's not just the floods, but there's been so much rain farmers haven't been able to plant or cultivate, and when they have the crops are growing like crap.

About a third of the corn crop goes to ethanol, which is used as an additive just about everywhere.

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I've read one report where farmers planted about 25 % more corn this year than last year so the hit isn't going to be nearly as bad as what makes for good stories on the 6 p.m. news.

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Old 07-01-2008, 10:46 AM   #9
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I've read one report where farmers planted about 25 % more corn this year than last year so the hit isn't going to be nearly as bad as what makes for good stories on the 6 p.m. news.
utilizing corn for ethanol has already launched us into a world wide
food shortage...

the hit just won't be as large as originally predicted because the statistics didn't take into account the extra crops planted
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:26 AM   #10
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watched a show the other night about how they get twice the juice [gals]out of stitch grass then they do corn for a filler in gas....lets see if this ever comes to lite....corn 650....stitch grass 1263.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:52 AM   #11
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watched a show the other night about how they get twice the juice [gals]out of stitch grass then they do corn for a filler in gas....lets see if this ever comes to lite....corn 650....stitch grass 1263.
Now let's see, if we keep the farmers growing a crop that produces FAR LESS useable feul product than stitch grass, we'll keep the profits rolling into our pockets. (big oil company)

Why try to improve fuel economy and alternative fuel sources/additives when you can keep the "sheep-like" public buying into the "corn-fuel" BS? What do you think would happen if someone suddenly discovered a way to turn something like urine into fuel? Or just plain rainwater? The big oil companies would either try to buy the technology and bury it, discredit the science, or destroy the discovery and it's creator.
We've created a monster, and unfortunately, we've let it run free for decades unchecked.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:32 PM   #12
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It's the American way. Now the rest of the country will "bail em" out. They will do it the same way they did with longline boats.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:12 PM   #13
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This oil/gasoline/diesel/heating oil crises is not the fault of any of the Arab states. It is fueled by our own investors and speculators. The enemy is us, the US. And our homegrown greed. This is a fine example of the power boning that occurs with no regulation and de-regulation.

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
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