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07-24-2008, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
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another thought along the same lines, big pogies attract big bass and blues. smaller bass can't eat them, and therefore move on looking for forage that they can handle. therefore, if you're into big bass on the pogies, you're not getting smalls. if your into smalls, your not getting large. just a though, i don't have any real experience to back it up.
also, last season up on the northshore, we had schoolies for the first half of the season. Then larger fish moved in (and seamingly they were just staging, because there was no real baitfish source around) and we didn't see a fish under 20 lbs for about a month. They just don't hang out together sometimes.
the concentration of the larger fish at the pogies is what concerns me. its too easy to catch them (given that you know what you're doing, i.e. its easy for guys who are good, hard for guys that don't know) in large numbers. Don't some people attribute part of the decline of stripers in the past to them being too easy to catch around the pogies at the time?
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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07-24-2008, 08:36 AM
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Stock Data
I found this the other day and thought it might add to the discussion.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission site
http://www.asmfc.org/
Woody
PS SoCo has been lousy for the last 2 seasons. Well, except for RHM! 
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07-24-2008, 11:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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I fish the northern most of the good striper grounds....Plum Island...and there is no lack of fish of any size here..... just because they are not feeding doesnt mean they are not there....
I've seen the cycle both ways,right now, the balance of small to large couldnt be better.... I see fish that obviously have been hatched in the river, conventional wisdom says that those fish dont migrate until they get much larger, teen sized fish, something we never had alot of in the 70's and 80's, it was either large or small... A good deal of the problem isnt with lack of fish, but with an abundance of bait, the fish are naturaly more selective, different tactics are a must, even when targeting schoolies,abundance of fish in a given area is cyclical, and one area may be giving up huge numbers of a certain year class, while others appear to be in a drought.... it's part of the cycle and like all other things in life,will eventualy seek a balance......
My personal feeling is that the state of the striper is in good shape,fisherman in general, are much more aware of conservation than they were 25 or more years ago when almost every bass caught got boxed , iced,and shipped to market, quoata's and fishing/no fishing days keep comercial anglers in check, something that wasnt available back during the collapse,sure,fisherman new to "the game" are killing plenty of large, but only when opertunity presents itself and when the fishing is easy,it's new to them, but in time it will pass, this is just one mans opinion, based on over 40 years of striped bass fishing,and a good deal of that time as a comercial fisherman... and IIMHO, the fishing now is as good as it has ever been, and with the amount of small, medium and large I see come over the rail of my boat( and released) on a nightly basis, I'm sure my grandchildren will be catching ( and releasing) striped bass long after grandpop is taking a dirt nap...
My .02
Roc
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